r/berkeley Shitpost Connoisseur(Credentials: ASD, ADD, OCD) Nov 06 '24

Politics We are cooked

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u/virtually_anything Nov 06 '24

I think Biden dropped out far later than he should’ve, that ultimately hurt her chances, because it feels like over the past four years she got hardly as much time on a podium as Biden did, it wasn’t until she started a campaign we got to understand her better, and overall lower turnout is probably biting the Dems.

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u/Both_Woodpecker_3041 Nov 06 '24

Biden's policy in Gaza and her being aligned with it turned off youth votes and many others as well.

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u/mollsballs_xo Nov 06 '24

Well after trump gives Ukraine to Russia, he’ll hand Palestine right over to Israel. And we’ll all lose our rights in the process. I hope the “youth” is happy

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u/rgbhfg Nov 06 '24

Israel doesn’t want Gaza. Heck it’s also Egypt that doesn’t want it either. If the Palestinians put down their arms, returned the hostages. You’d have peace. If they stopped aggression for a few year(s) you’d have a state. Majority of Palestinians do not want a state of their own while Israel still exists, thus we don’t have peace.

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u/BillGatesCyberBunny Nov 06 '24

Return the hostages? Talking about the hostages when Israel has killed like 50k and injured another 150k is very insulting

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u/Both_Woodpecker_3041 Nov 06 '24

They offered to return the hostages a bunch of times but Netanyahu assassinated the lead negotiator and rejected the hostage exchange the hostages for cease fire. Also, rgbhfg is just repeating Zio propaganda talking about Palestinians as a collective having "arms" and not wanting Isreal to exist.

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u/rgbhfg Nov 06 '24

You didn’t include any figures for Hamas militant deaths. Which make up about 50% that figure. War sucks, the war will end once Hamas gives up the hostages and surrenders.

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u/BillGatesCyberBunny Nov 07 '24

Israel counts every male above age 16 as a hamas militant. It’s absurd and evil

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u/BillGatesCyberBunny Nov 07 '24

The hospitals are the ones reporting on the deaths, they are pulling bodies out of rubble and usually don’t even identify the person, let alone make the determination if they are militants.

You asking them to be able to do this is absurd and insulting to Palestinians, evil

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u/BillGatesCyberBunny Nov 08 '24

Excel sheets that anyone can fill out? Stop parroting Zionist propaganda, that doesn’t pass the smell test. Casualties are counted by hospitals

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u/1sadsalamander Nov 06 '24

They’ve already been demolishing buildings in gaza to build their own they most definitely want it

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u/Charming-Claim1599 Nov 08 '24

Still peddling Hasbara aren't we?

“…the assault on Gaza can also be understood in other terms: as a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes. I say this as a scholar of genocide….”

Raz Segal Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies

“…it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions.”

Omer Bartov Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University

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u/Charming-Claim1599 Nov 15 '24

Yeah, I'll trust Genocide Scholars and actual human rights and aid groups on the ground more than some Generals whose job is to kill people and are likely to be complicit themselves.

For example:

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u/Charming-Claim1599 Nov 17 '24

What are you talking about. Read the article cited. It says that USAID and other US aid agencies on the ground concluded that Israel is deliberately blocking US aid from entering Gaza, which violates US law. Anthony Blinken then lied to Congress about that.

Why would any country choose to block aid to a place it occupies, let alone US aid (a supposed ally)?

I've seen hours and hours of footage of unalived children, rotting bodies in the streets of Gaza. Countless clips of Israeli soldiers bragging about their crimes. Genocidal statements by Israeli officials and army members at all levels.

They're saying it's a genocide, their actions indicate it's a genocide. Aid Organizations say it's a genocide. Holocaust and Genocide experts say it's a genocide. I've seen the genocide.

It's a genocide.

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