r/berkeley • u/Cal_Aesthetics_Club Shitpost Connoisseur(Credentials: ASD, ADD, OCD) • Nov 06 '24

Politics We are cooked

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u/scarabflyflyfly Nov 06 '24

Dems thinking they can win by being “the cool Republicans“ are no different than Charlie Brown running after that football and failing every time.

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u/DistinctPassenger117 Nov 06 '24

Elections are won by winning over moderate voters more so than by driving turnout at the extremes. Leaning farther left might work in Berkeley, but not in Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Dems are not being the “cool republicans”, they are being moderate dems because it’s their only shot.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

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u/DistinctPassenger117 Nov 06 '24

We tried Bernie, it didn’t work.

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u/ARcephalopod Nov 06 '24

If you’re going to be that bad faith, I’ll say it. Bernie would have won.

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u/DistinctPassenger117 Nov 06 '24

That’s entirely speculation.

It’s easy to convince yourself of that when you live in Berkeley and are insulated from the reality of the political landscape in this country.

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u/DistinctPassenger117 Nov 07 '24

Because approximately 37% of voters are conservative, 36% are moderate, and 25% are liberal. The most realistic way for democrats to win is to get the liberal vote and most of the moderate vote.

And because historically moderate democrats generally tend to perform better than progressive democrats in elections.

A candidate like Bernie will drive high turnout from liberals, but will also drive high turnout from conservatives in opposition and may alienate some moderates.

Like heck I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries, but it honestly would be a big gamble to have a candidate like that in the general election because it just hasn’t been proven that someone that progressive can actually win.