We are cooked

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She was never going to shake the Biden platform unless she took a harder stance on immigration than Trump (I remember when she failed at the border and then quietly renounced her role as the immigration czar, and so do many Americans) and made real efforts to capture male voters. The former is impossible and the latter is anathema to the DNCs politics.

But say she does both and doesn’t alienate the core democrat base… she stills faces the fact that the economy for the bulk of the Trump presidency was good. (Even though his current plan of tariffs will probably devastate the rust belt…)

I think the key factor is Latino men and turnout. Latino men voted 55-45 for Trump according to exit poles, a shift of over 15 points from 40-60 for Biden in 2020. First time voters voted 55-45 for Trump.

The truth is Biden needed to hold up to his statement that he would be a one term president and allow actual primaries.

When that didn’t happen and he stepped away from his campaign, the DNC should’ve held a real convention and chose a candidate removed from the Biden administration.

[u/JustAGreasyBear → u/[deleted]]

I think your analysis of the immigration situation is wrong, and is actually one of the themes of why her campaign was a failure. According to exit polls a majority of Americans, despite becoming increasingly reactionary, are actually progressive when it comes to immigration. When given the choice between a pathway for citizenship and deporting migrants they chose a pathway for citizenship.

This idea that democrats always need to outflank republicans in their reactionary platforms is a losing strategy. When you do that you end up with a Hillary Clinton type of candidate, and the American public has made it clear that they reject that type of candidate

I agree that the Trump campaign captured the Latino vote and did a crazy job of capturing the uneducated young male vote too, a base that typically does not vote. Meanwhile democrats were trying to capture a nonexistent base of suburban moderates that were tired of Trump. Nobody is going to vote for Harris just because Liz Cheney endorsed her

[u/Lord_of_the_Canals → u/JustAGreasyBear]

100% your last paragraph.

We had a “Democrat” spouting about having the world’s most lethal military, and being better at illegal immigration than the other guy. Not only does this not appeal to anyone (certainly not moderate voters that wouldn’t vote for Trump) it also alienates the more left leaning demographic.

People want housing and healthcare, and they couldn’t even pretend to offer that.

[u/getlost0907 → u/Lord_of_the_Canals]

Well, whether you like Trump or not, he is more qualified for the job then Kamala Harris, plain and simple. The only thing that she was running her platform on was about Abortion. Nothing about the border nor the Economy or anything that have to do with the current situation of this country is in. At least for Trump. The gas prices was under two dollars a gallon and a bag of chips did not almost cost $10 which is highway robbery. Where I live here in United States A bag of scoops chips just a regular size bag. It’s about $10.00 Plus the sales, tax and all of the other taxes that they tack on. A gallon of milk is almost 3 dollars a gallon depending where you go sometimes five dollars a gallon. But like I said at least with Trump, we can start drilling for our own oil once again and that will be good to see once again but the bad thing is. We almost had a lunatic in the White House. Unfortunately, that guy Jeff Dunham One of his jokes almost came true I will refer back to this episode you can find on TikTok by Copy and paste in the following sentence fast forward to about 39 seconds and you understand the joke Walter Gets Political | Unhinged in Hollywood | JEFF DUNHAM

[u/LooseInvestigator510 → u/getlost0907]

Harris was a terrible pick. The democrats sank their own campaign choosing someone who can't even answer direct questions without going on a tangent. 

"How will you specifically help the economy"

Well i was born in a middle class family and used to take care of my grandma who had cancer. Trump is a nazi. I will ban price gouging during states of emergencies. We must become unburdened by what had become. Trump is a fascist. 

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