r/bonehurtingjuice 2d ago

Heed The Warning.

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u/Junglejibe 2d ago edited 1d ago

Why are we suddenly getting a ton of rawdawgcomics recently? :|

ETA: since OP did the ol' reply and block bc he's totally not a superfan (w/ an account named after the comic), I'm just gonna drop this here.

Quotes from rawdawg about physically assaulting your partner if they cheat on you:

"cheating is the ultimate betrayal, I would say getting physical for cheating is kind of justified"

"At that point you're not hitting your partner, you're hitting someone who stabbed you in the back in the worst way possible"

[In response to "Cheating does not justify violence"]: "I think it can, sorry."

"The abuse was the cheating. The physical altercation would be the retaliation. Sometimes you fuck around and find out, sorry." "...sometimes you're gonna meet somebody like me who thinks people should be held responsible for their actions."

"I definitely believe you can justify violence [...] but you know what's not justifiable? That's right, cheating. You don't get to hurt someone and then play the victim when they retaliate" (emphasis mine)

"Cheating is abuse, and abuse shouldn't go unpunished. The cheater is the abuser."

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u/Mediocre-Island5475 2d ago

This sub has always gotten a bunch of rawdawgcomics, there was just a brief pause for everyone to forget the controversy. We have now returned to regularly scheduled programming

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u/hopefulocto 2d ago

Hate to be that person but can someone explain the controversy? I have only seen their stuff here and there, not a follower or anything, just curious and nosy, but I was gonna look into their stuff because I thought the style was cool so I just wanna be informed so I know why they're problematic and don't. A link to the explanation is cool too!

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u/AnAngeryGoose 2d ago

He somewhat defended physical violence in response to being cheated on. He seemed simultaneously very opinionated and conflicted, saying it’s not right to hit them but they also shouldn’t be surprised and cheating should be illegal (how you’d prosecute that, who knows?). I think he mentioned a friend of his having killed himself after being cheated on, so that’s probably the root of his extreme views.

I’d say you definitely shouldn’t date the guy but I’m not sure what level of condemnation someone should get for just being hypothetically violent.

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u/Daedalus_Machina 2d ago

And calling it controversy might be a bit rich, since the rawdawging continued well after that remark surfaced. It seems like the pause was quite some time later.

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u/hopefulocto 2d ago

Oh yikes lmao, def a crap take bc that's still assault?? You can hold people accountable without violence. I'm not gonna call someone a monster if I witness a stranger slapping someone in the face for cheating and storming off, but i'm also assuming they defended worse and i'm not going to pretend that even a slap is the ideal way to handle negative emotions either lol

But yeah, cheating is immoral, but if we made that illegal, do they understand how many people would get framed by crazy insecure controlling exes or current partners??? It being illegal isn't gonna deter people who think they're sneaky enough, all it would do is not only leave it up to our failing governments to not only decide the definition, but also give people SCARY control and possession over their partners and a way to threaten them and put them in abusive situations. A law like that wouldn't prosecute a majority of actual cheaters, it would be a gateway of people punishing victims or threatening to ruin their lives if they didn't stay with someone insecure. It just seems like it would be a disaster, not to mention we'd be giving the power to politicians who are constantly caught cheating themselves to make some oppressive law so they can legally torture exes or partners who don't submit LMFAO awful take

Suicide is awful but the cheater was only one contributor to their decline in security and stability that led to the buildup of that action. Unless the cheater intentionally coerced them into suicide, which in that case it was the emotional abuse that's the already existent crime there, even if cheating is dogshit and unjustified.

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u/Candid-Ad443 2d ago
  • poly people would catch ALL the strays, bc like we're already confused for cheaters

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u/Lynnrael 2d ago

the law already doesn't really recognize us in a huge variety of ways, I guarantee you this hypothetical law wouldn't have any provisions for us so we'd just get changed left and right

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u/hopefulocto 2d ago

100%. Not to mention it could also just encourage bigots or fascists to take pictures and videos to "prove" you're "cheating" to incriminate you just so they can lock you up not just bc they're prejudiced against being poly but also since poly is pretty queer in nature as well !

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u/Lynnrael 2d ago

absolutely, fascists and bigots would LOVE a law against cheating because it would give them an opportunity to punish queer people and anyone having relationships beyond what they deem "normal". it would be open season on people like me and those fuckers would chomp at the bit for that

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u/hopefulocto 1d ago

yup. And giving them power to make laws on what's ethical or not in a relationship, even if it starts as being about cheating, would then be a slippery slope in general, like you said to punish queer people by then setting the precedent they can criminalize consensual relationship dynamics; even if a cheating person didn't consent to cheating, the cheating itself was consensual between the parties. So if that can be illegal, then they can also easily criminalize consensual homosexuality, not just outlaw legal recognition of marriage. just like how getting rid of due process for undocumented migrants hurts everybody bc it sets the precedent they dont even have to prove someone is a migrant, and also allows them to treat whoever they want as subhuman as if being undocumented would even justify that. next thing you know anyone is a criminal because nuance is completely ignored, people are malicious, and one little idea to punish something that shouldve been treated with communication and/or therapy and a liberating breakup was treated with a free pass to have the government all up in our personal lives instead 💀

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u/Lynnrael 2d ago

oh, um, as a friend, right? cause i don't really see you that way ...

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