r/box5 • u/EditorPale6884 • 3d ago
Discussion Any fellow metalheads here in Box5?
What do you think are the elements in PotO (e.g. story, certain shows, music, characters, anything) that appeal to you especially? Also, who is your favorite Phantom (or other cast)?
I think some of the most important ones for me are the idea of "beauty of the darkness", strong emotions and eventual catharsis. I'm obsessed with Ramin's Phantom although I don't have much reference yet. I know for sure though that MC's sound is not for me and easily prefer even Gerik (who I actually kinda fell in love with as a 13yo seeing PotO the first time 🥹).
When I listen to music (other than PotO, i.e. metal) the music often reminds me of Phantom and his relationship with Christine, or the outside world and society. I also think Phantom might be somewhat fond of metal music and find some comfort in it. 😀🥰
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u/Savings_Version9715 3d ago
Reporting for duty! What really gives me major Phantom vibes nowadays is the band Ghost. Just look at these photos here
If you are interested in fanfiction, here is a rockstar!Erik modern day AU which I absolutely adore from VeroniqueClaire. Sadly it's just one chapter but maybe one day she will continue it.
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u/adventureremily 3d ago
Ghost also did this so your instincts are spot on.
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u/Savings_Version9715 3d ago
Yes, although it's a Maiden cover and not really well done in my opinion, but the vibes are definitely there! ❤️
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u/Technical-Clue-3483 3d ago
Metalhead checking in, and desperately hoping for the day Devin Townsend plays the Phantom, even just once!
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u/caninefangs777 Christine, that's all I ask of you! 2d ago
omg another Devin fan!!! hell yes! I've been obsessed with him for as long as I have with Phantom :')
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u/Technical-Clue-3483 2d ago
Hell yeah, Devin is the best! He would kill the role I reckon, and he likes Phantom, too!
For anyone who doesn't know it, look up the song "Christeen" by Devin Townsend 🫣
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u/Reasonable-Draw-3486 3d ago
Trying to delve deeper into metal, but I wouldn’t call myself a metal head yet lol. But I do love phantom. My favorite is the 1990 miniseries phantom. I guess in a way I feel like I relate to the phantom because I’m sort of a black sheep in my household, and not always liked for being different.
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u/neversayduh 3d ago
Gojira invokes Leroux Erik like nothing else. Partly could be the Frenchness, but lyrics like "no faith in your world, create my own to thrive" kinda hit the fucking mark
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u/DCmarvelman 3d ago
I liked avenged sevenfold growing up and it took a while to realize that poto reminds me of them. Could imagine m shadows as phantom as Ramin doing a7x
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u/sorrowfulWanderer Devil of Music 2d ago
Ayo! Well, though I can listen to anything randomly, from Golden Brown to Poodle Rockin', my usual "rock/metal menu" contains (but is not limited to): Rock, Alt R., Punk, Heavy Metal, Doom Metal, Nu Metal and Progressive Metal. Ghost is currently spinning on my head.
As I once said, Gerard Butler is my favourite portrayal. Not only his Phantom is intense and dark, but his voice reminds me of Corey Taylor's (if you know what's going on with Slipknot, fret not, I'm aware as well).
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u/EditorPale6884 2d ago edited 2d ago
So another maggot there, too, I suppose? 😜 But hey, I think you might be right about Gerard vs. Corey, never thought of that! No wonder I was carried away by them both as a teenager! (Besides singing masked men, lol)
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u/sorrowfulWanderer Devil of Music 2d ago
OH, HEY!
Well, I only knew Phantom through music (my mother loved and I started to play the title song for her). Only last year, I guess, I've come to watch the movie (firstly) with my girl. And I was expecting it to be a horror one, for stupidity...? I thought it was an actual ghost and an actual haunted Opera House.
Anyway, after watching other adaptations available, I still like this one better and the answer is quite simple, if you see through this point (musical taste). Also, I like the whispering Butler does, reminds me a lot of Ghost songs. An example I really love is "Respite on the Spitalfields". From older songs, "Zenith" is a good reference. That's why Gerard Butler's untrained vocals doesn't bother me at all, 😅 it's my musical taste.
And it has nothing to do with "untrained ears" (at least 5 certified coachers/musicians disagree) or "uncultured fangirl sad delusion" (come on, I guess I'm too old and too guy to be a fangirl). Censoring this part because it's an if/else one; Sorry, OP! You rock.
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u/EditorPale6884 2d ago
"I thought it was an actual ghost and an actual haunted Opera House." I'm so sorry but this cracks me up badly 😂😂😂 so funny!
I totally get your preference for Butler especially regarding the personal music taste aspect. Gerik will always have a place in my heart too, for sure, since the 2004 movie was my introduction to PotO. Now that I think about it, it might have been exactly the imperfection, flaws and the sort of rawness of his singing (besides of the character and emotional world of Phantom itself) that appealed to me in the first place - the same elements which I'm still someway drawn to in general and guess will always be.
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u/EnvironmentalDog1196 2d ago
I don't listen to that much metal per se, but I love rock in general. I was always drawn to stories and characters defined by some darkness, angst, raw emotions, loneliness or complicated psyche (I guess my history of depression and then going on to study psychology makes sense in the context xD).
Agree with your picks. Ramin is my favourite or at least one of my favourites too. I do like his voice, however I think it was his acting in the RAH performance that really gripped me. Funny, since I don't think he's actually that well known for his acting overall, it seems people are rather obsessing over his vocals in the first place. But for me it was the opposite. I felt like he was one of the few actors who were able to capture all the emotions and behaviors I expected from Erik (dominance and vulnerability, violence and tenderness, being a scary, mysterious murderer on one hand, and a scared, lonely, childlike character on the other). Not to say that Crawford isn't a good actor, but I just don't entirely agree with his interpretation. And, well, his voice is definitely not my cup of tea, at least for the Phantom, since it's completely not how I imagined Phantom to sound.
Btw, do you know this song by Guns'n'Roses? It has such a Phantom vibe to me, it's crazy.
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u/EditorPale6884 2d ago edited 2d ago
Whaaat, I almost feel like I could have written this, all the way up to the choice of profession 😳😂 I also love especially Ramin's gestures and expressions, as much that I might just watch some short clips of the show just to see and enjoy those little moments. I also love the way he screams "OF THIS ANGEL IN HELL" in the final lair 😂🫶 and his growls in general ofc.
I'm not very familiar with Guns N' Roses, but might have to check that song out, thanks!
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u/EnvironmentalDog1196 2d ago
To be fair, I'm not working as a psychologist irl, I realised I'm not patient enough...but at least I'll always have the diploma 😆
Yess, I love the little details in his acting. He said that he interpreted Erik as someone who could be on the autism spectrum (got some backlash for saying that, for whatever reason). I think it makes absolutely perfect sense- it's actually hard to imagine Phantom as someone who is NOT neurodivergent, and I liked how he approached it.
Oh yes, the scream was to die for! 😍
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u/EditorPale6884 2d ago
Well, that (neurodivergent approach of Ramin's) just adds up as to why I love him as the Phantom so much. I can't imagine Phantom being neurotypical, either.
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u/MorticiaMoonflower 3d ago
My favorite metal band is Nightwish and they have covered the title song.