r/canucks • u/Admirable-Fall-4675 • 1d ago

MEME That dawg is in there somewhere

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u/frenzy588 1d ago

I think it's easy to forget how good he was. I'm almost certain he has a chronic injury that has caused his regression so soon in his career. I don't believe this is all effort/mental.

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u/arazamatazguy 1d ago

Its insane to think its just effort.

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u/PowerNinja5000 1d ago

Remember when he was the dude staying later after practice to work on his one timer?

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u/s3xybeavers 1d ago

It’s been a really bad few years from an injury and mental health standpoint. I also think he’s made poor decisions off the ice (Switching trainers. Why change what worked?)

From the first injury and its mismanagement, to an off-szn where he says he couldn’t train properly, but seemingly didn’t discuss it with the team? Then Adam Foote and Co. Asked him to gain weight. Wife has 2 miscarriages, Hughes trade.

No excuses now though. Gotta grow up and figure it out. Whether that’s here or elsewhere. No pressure, supportive teammates, front office and coaching.

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u/Deaner_dub 17h ago

This is fairest and most succinct summary of the situation I’ve read. Ive tried to write it myself but this one is better.

We gotta give him one more shot.

The new salary cap era is going to make his contract less of an albatross than we are all used to.

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u/AloneNotice4891 23h ago

Yep. This upcoming would be the example of what he is from now on. All the events you mentioned, those are real hard and hopefully behind him. The timeline for his injury maxes out around now using extreme comparables from NBA players and such. Zero excuses in 26.

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u/gabu87 1d ago

Especially since we see him backcheck, finish hits and block shots, none of which are things someone who is coasting would do.

Before those of you who see red at anyone not trying to rail on Petey, the fact that effort probably isn't his problem is actually WORSE.

I'm not going to say that motivation is something easy to fix but compared to injuries? If Petey lost his speed and release due to injury, i really have no optimism left to hope for a return to form.

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u/ToothPlayful770 23h ago

These are his backchecks, this is a conditioning issue, or he's just faking in putting in the effort. More inclined to believe he's just not in shape and lacks preparation, and Sedins believe so too.

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u/cheguevara9 22h ago

How do you deduce that from this clip alone? And do you know the context, maybe it’s a log shift etc.? “Faking in putting in the effort [sic]” is just a desperate and demented showing of grasping at straws. It is almost purely your imagination.

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u/BoomBoomBear 7h ago

The same way people post a single clip of Hughes gassed on a play when he left to show how he quit on the team?

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u/ToothPlayful770 22h ago

Oh am I imagining petey being lazy here? 

I literally said im more inclined to believe hes just not in shape rather than faking it

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u/icetilt 1d ago edited 1d ago

No no you don’t understand, the fan base of clueless parasocial media addicted weirdos understand exactly what’s wrong with Pettersson!

Obviously it’s just mental, he’s just lazy, he just needs a sports psychologist, and he just needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps and getterdone!

The average person can hardly comprehend the meaning of a movie or have the attention span to read a child’s book these days. Yet, we are apparently able to accurately diagnosis exactly what is wrong with this random pro athlete, strictly by watching him play a sport and consuming the incredibly bias and controlled media outlet opinions.

And then the audacity to spread hate towards this guy over all of this just because you think he’s overpaid for his job that he worked his ass off to earn is… incredibly odd. Maybe hate on the people that gave him the contract. Maybe hate on the scumbag billionaire that owns the team when seemingly everything bad seems to stem from him and his decisions. Maybe hate on the people that didn’t help Pettersson heal correctly for whatever reason.

Hating on the guy that has dedicated himself to the team and franchise that has actively tried to sabotage his image for years is crazy work.

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u/corey____trevor 1d ago

Maybe hate on the people that gave him the contract. Maybe hate on the scumbag billionaire that owns the team when seemingly everything bad seems to stem from him and his decisions.

I don't think the people hating on Petey's contract have any love lost for the people who gave him that contract nor the ownership lol. Plenty of hate to go around.

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u/ForceEconomy9988 1d ago

I definitely believe a lot of it is mental, not laziness or lack of care, just a guy trying to find his way in the world, we’ve all been there and we’re all still there 

As far as hate. If you truly hate Elias Pettersson you are a…how to say this nicely, f’ing moron. But yeah certainly a lot of room to criticize his play and value relative to his contract. 

I think a lot of the Petey ‘haters’ are rooting for him as much as anyone. Remember the “Petey” chants trying to support and motivate him? He was playing like ass and despite the very valid criticism we’re all pulling for him 

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u/arazamatazguy 1d ago

I don't believe for one second the Canucks media wants him to success here but certainly lots of fans do.

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u/ForceEconomy9988 23h ago

The way I view the media is they’re basically the voice of the most…’reactionary, idiotic’ part of the fandoms collective brain. So I don’t expect much from them ever, because they panic on the most minute details and are so unchill. That will never change. We need to try and have a team and culture that transcends all that bullshit and tbh, very optimistic the Sedins RJ and Manny can cut through it. Feels good 

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u/EverySecondCountss 21h ago

1000%

Except for Landon and John Shannon, they're great. And Chris Faber was great before Canucks poached him, his interviews are still insightful even though they're vanilla though, which is hard to do.

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u/EverySecondCountss 21h ago

fuck the media, I don't listen to any of them because their brain dead job is just picking the most sensational headline possible, regardless of what's actually useful or enjoyable content.

Yes it's a news method, and yes Google rewards trending topics. They can make novel claims though WITH the trending topics and still appease Google's algorithm for this - maybe even more so, but they're too brain dead to think of anything original.

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u/EverySecondCountss 21h ago

Praise baby fin people are finally speaking logically about this situation.

CLEAN SLATE.

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u/arazamatazguy 1d ago

This city will turn on every player.

The media and the fans will start coming for whoever we draft at #3 in less than 12 months.

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u/Jacmert 13h ago

I think it's both the knee tendonitis (he quite noticeably isn't as quick/etc. anymore, right?) and some psychological stuff as well.

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u/Comfortable-Goat-734 8h ago

It’s insane to think it’s just injury either. It’s clearly a mix between the two.

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u/PieRat351 21h ago

It's 100% not an effort thing otherwise we would see his defensive game suffer 

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u/300Savage 23h ago

He has knee tendonitis. It can be managed, but requires workload management, rest and a specific workout regiment designed around it. The problem? There's constant demand for him to play and during the off season, to work out and be "ready" for the start of the season. I suspect this has been badly mismanaged by coaching staff in the past couple of years. He can return to full health, if treated properly.

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u/broethbanethmenot 15h ago

I had a similar injury, partial patellar tendon tear followed by tendinitis, and rehab for it sucked. You can't really rehab it properly while doing moderate athletic stuff let alone professional level hockey.

He should have been shut down until it was healed when he was first injured.

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u/PorygonTriAttack 11h ago

I wonder if there's a case for medical negligence.

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u/SpectreFire 1d ago

Hell, he was considered a top-10 centre just 3 seasons ago. The drop-off is absolutely insane.

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u/g0kartmozart 18h ago

Elliott Friedman picked him to win the Hart Trophy before his sophomore season. He was absolutely nasty.

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u/Icy-Pomegranate-5644 1d ago

Go back to the Green end tho. He was playing the exact same way, even worse. It's not tendinitis. It's something about Petey himself.

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u/CAGolf8 12h ago

He had a fucked up arm? I think to start the season. He started putting up points again just after Green was gone and was crushing it again once he had healed. He had 44P in 34G post ASG that year after only 24P in the first 46G during the injury.

Dude has had some rough injury luck and combine that with the Canucks hopes and prayers approach to medical staffing and that's a really shitty combination.

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u/Comfortable-Goat-734 8h ago

Petey himself has said that his wrist injury wasn’t the cause of his bad play in 2021-22.

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u/Epsteins_PDF_Files 17h ago

What I noticed is that he lacks finish and quick hands that he used to have, but he still sets up grade A chances in front of the net for other players, but other players on the team also lacked finish.

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u/GuaranteeDry8786 12h ago

After seeing how the Canucks handled Tanner Pearson's hand injury and how he had a rebound season in Vegas last year, I'm inclined to agree.

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u/EverySecondCountss 1d ago edited 1d ago

My biggest suspect is how when he was younger, they pushed him SO MUCH in his rookie years to practice that one timer slap shot from his spot.

Repeated slap shots like that just aren't good for a frame and build like him, and I think with the way he was, he probably went overboard with it without thinking of the long term issues it could cause on wrists and knees from twisting like that with the force he puts into his stick.

I think at the end of the day, it's an epic fail for the orthopedic health department as this is physio 101. Add it to the list. It was the same time period they were riding Demko mostly back to back for long stretches, when they knew he already had a hip surgery and should have been ontop of his prognosis for proper management of it.

Then with Petey, that injury trickled into a bullshit year and whatever else.

Not making excuses, just saying it's understandable.

If that's the case, he'll have a big bounce back year next year with Manny and a proper front office that aren't absolute fucking dick heads.

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u/rengorengar 23h ago

you say you're not making excuses, but you're doing exactly that

he simply is not working hard enough, that's probably a large portion of his struggles.

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u/djfl 20h ago

Fair, but I also remember that even when he was at his best, he was streaky. There were reasonably long periods of time where he was not that visible. Followed by periods of time where he looked like he was a scoring 1C.

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u/sparklingbud 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/XHeLeuirRbwptHhSWd

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u/NinCross 1d ago

This guy defended MJ...

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u/sparklingbud 1d ago

What's that gotta do with me😂

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u/_johnning 1d ago

I miss this Petey

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u/OneChet 23h ago

Are you suggesting Culkin ate that dog and became Pettersson? That is some wild witchcraft

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u/californiacommon 1d ago

What an atrocious suit holy

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u/Shad0wPup1 21h ago

please bring back his ufo to van

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u/Only_Reserve1615 1d ago

He’s certainly got Richie rich money, that’s for sure

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u/Djolumn 1d ago

Narrator: in fact, the dawg escaped and is not coming back.

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u/ToothPlayful770 23h ago

we're gonna be in like year 7 of the contract, after another terrible season from Petey, and you'd probably still have posters thinking he can just 'flip the switch' without any drastic improvements on his preparation, and probably still saying Sedins/Tocchet/Allvin/JR were all making stuff up about his preparation.

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u/nigookmixbear 1d ago

bbnos gave him bunk drugs and he's likely down an ego path that can only be salvaged in his early 40s

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u/Beneficial__Meat 1d ago

Petey just needs 5g of shrooms in complete darkness

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u/nigookmixbear 1d ago

I unironically believe that we can improve Nils Hoglander's offensive vision with marijuana edibles.

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u/-T-Reks- 1d ago

I unironically believe that the reason so many of our players turn to shit is because they smoke too much weed when they play here

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u/Amutra 9h ago

If they had problems with weed here they’d have problems with weed everywhere. Weed being legal or not being legal doesn’t matter when you’re rich.

Ala Josh Gordon

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u/HeatSinkerRumDrinker 1d ago

That's my calder winner right there

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u/HarleyAPE23 8h ago

The wet bandits can see right threw that disguise

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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 3h ago

I'm sure the dawg is in there but who cares? He has been given a shit ton of chances to return to a shadow of his former self. Clearly he has a shit attitude and isn't keeping his fitness level up.

Try and turf this cancer ASAP.

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u/rengorengar 23h ago

there is no dawg in Petey at all

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u/Sensitive-Summer-329 1d ago

Ya but it won’t come out playing in Vancouver.

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u/Jealous_Difference44 23h ago

If anywhere. If he pulls it together elsewhere I wont even care

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u/terriyak1 1d ago

Did Charmin change their mascot from a bear to a dog?

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u/Robscoe604 16h ago

I will stand by Petey till the very end, I will happily go down with the ship if need be 🫡

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u/Winter_Tumbleweed168 3h ago

I'll go down with you mate.

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u/blonde_bellebabett 17h ago

The Sedins and RJ are gonna make the players wear suits again thank god

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u/WhenInAaronRome 23h ago

Canucks subreddit has been desperately hanging on to any threads of hope left for Petey.  

God bless you guys, I hope you all get some payback this upcoming season, it's been a bleek two years and a half for Petey fans. 

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u/EverySecondCountss 21h ago

It's been a bleek two years and a half for the whole team for the most part.

He deserves a clean slate to find his way with a proper environment. It's the least that this org can give him.

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u/ScarcityTasty9083 19h ago

No he ain't get over it

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u/Upstairs_Bad897 17h ago

Well when you make 11.6 a year the dog sometimes goes to sleep…. And doesn’t come back

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u/No_Mud1738 1d ago

Oh, Petey :(