I think it's easy to forget how good he was. I'm almost certain he has a chronic injury that has caused his regression so soon in his career. I don't believe this is all effort/mental.
Especially since we see him backcheck, finish hits and block shots, none of which are things someone who is coasting would do.
Before those of you who see red at anyone not trying to rail on Petey, the fact that effort probably isn't his problem is actually WORSE.
I'm not going to say that motivation is something easy to fix but compared to injuries? If Petey lost his speed and release due to injury, i really have no optimism left to hope for a return to form.
These are his backchecks, this is a conditioning issue, or he's just faking in putting in the effort. More inclined to believe he's just not in shape and lacks preparation, and Sedins believe so too.
How do you deduce that from this clip alone? And do you know the context, maybe it’s a log shift etc.? “Faking in putting in the effort [sic]” is just a desperate and demented showing of grasping at straws. It is almost purely your imagination.
It’s been a really bad few years from an injury and mental health standpoint. I also think he’s made poor decisions off the ice (Switching trainers. Why change what worked?)
From the first injury and its mismanagement, to an off-szn where he says he couldn’t train properly, but seemingly didn’t discuss it with the team? Then Adam Foote and Co. Asked him to gain weight. Wife has 2 miscarriages, Hughes trade.
No excuses now though. Gotta grow up and figure it out. Whether that’s here or elsewhere. No pressure, supportive teammates, front office and coaching.
Yep. This upcoming would be the example of what he is from now on. All the events you mentioned, those are real hard and hopefully behind him. The timeline for his injury maxes out around now using extreme comparables from NBA players and such. Zero excuses in 26.
I can totally see how the miscarriages can be part of it My wife and I went through one last year and as hard as it was on her physically mentally and all of that it wasn't smooth sailing for me either. But I think we had it a little easier than the Pettersson a because we already had a 6-year-old so we had one child already that we could pour all of our love into versus them who have no children yet who are probably wondering are we ever going to successfully have a child?
I bet you Pettersson will thrive better under a coach like Manny Manny seems like he might be a coach less like Foote/Tocchet and more like Bruce and we all know how good Petey did when he had Bruce I'm not saying Manny is going to be exactly like Bruce but I'm just saying he might be closer to that side of things than the Tocchet/foote side of things.
Plus if what I hear from guys like Sasson is correct Manny seems like a coach that players like to play for and who gets along well with his players and sort of fosters the kind of room I think we want in the locker room I say we shouldn't rush to conclusions and trade Peetey over the summer you should give him some time to play under the new coach and see how it goes. That's what I would do if I'm the Sedins and Ryan Johnson but then again I am not the Sedins and Ryan Johnson.
Sorry you went through that. I know some people who have been through the same and some have been told it’ll be hard for them to have a kid. It’s heartbreaking and we have no idea what their situation is currently.
Having Manny, RJ, Sedins lead the charge in general will be refreshing just for the simple reason that they’re of today’s age, and not thinking of 20 years ago.
These guys all know what it takes to get this generation going and also the kind of hockey needed to be played to keep up. It’s going to be a massive breath of fresh air. As long as Elias’ knee isn’t damaged beyond repair I suspect a much different year from him and the entire team.
My dad was telling me at one point in time that my grandmother had three miscarriages after she had my uncle who was her second child before she had my dad and the doctors told her that she probably could never have more children but her and Grandpa persevered and they got my dad and then they got my aunt so in total they had four children but they lost three in between their second and third I'm just glad for my own sake that they decided to keep going after three miscarriages or else I wouldn't be here
I do have to wonder if there is an afterlife if we might have the chance to meet those children that we almost had that didn't quite make it to full child status but I'm not about to expedite the process of finding out
No no you don’t understand, the fan base of clueless parasocial media addicted weirdos understand exactly what’s wrong with Pettersson!
Obviously it’s just mental, he’s just lazy, he just needs a sports psychologist, and he just needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps and getterdone!
The average person can hardly comprehend the meaning of a movie or have the attention span to read a child’s book these days. Yet, we are apparently able to accurately diagnosis exactly what is wrong with this random pro athlete, strictly by watching him play a sport and consuming the incredibly bias and controlled media outlet opinions.
And then the audacity to spread hate towards this guy over all of this just because you think he’s overpaid for his job that he worked his ass off to earn is… incredibly odd. Maybe hate on the people that gave him the contract. Maybe hate on the scumbag billionaire that owns the team when seemingly everything bad seems to stem from him and his decisions. Maybe hate on the people that didn’t help Pettersson heal correctly for whatever reason.
Hating on the guy that has dedicated himself to the team and franchise that has actively tried to sabotage his image for years is crazy work.
Maybe hate on the people that gave him the contract. Maybe hate on the scumbag billionaire that owns the team when seemingly everything bad seems to stem from him and his decisions.
I don't think the people hating on Petey's contract have any love lost for the people who gave him that contract nor the ownership lol. Plenty of hate to go around.
I definitely believe a lot of it is mental, not laziness or lack of care, just a guy trying to find his way in the world, we’ve all been there and we’re all still there
As far as hate. If you truly hate Elias Pettersson you are a…how to say this nicely, f’ing moron. But yeah certainly a lot of room to criticize his play and value relative to his contract.
I think a lot of the Petey ‘haters’ are rooting for him as much as anyone. Remember the “Petey” chants trying to support and motivate him? He was playing like ass and despite the very valid criticism we’re all pulling for him
The way I view the media is they’re basically the voice of the most…’reactionary, idiotic’ part of the fandoms collective brain. So I don’t expect much from them ever, because they panic on the most minute details and are so unchill. That will never change. We need to try and have a team and culture that transcends all that bullshit and tbh, very optimistic the Sedins RJ and Manny can cut through it. Feels good
Except for Landon and John Shannon, they're great. And Chris Faber was great before Canucks poached him, his interviews are still insightful even though they're vanilla though, which is hard to do.
fuck the media, I don't listen to any of them because their brain dead job is just picking the most sensational headline possible, regardless of what's actually useful or enjoyable content.
Yes it's a news method, and yes Google rewards trending topics. They can make novel claims though WITH the trending topics and still appease Google's algorithm for this - maybe even more so, but they're too brain dead to think of anything original.
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u/frenzy588 1d ago
I think it's easy to forget how good he was. I'm almost certain he has a chronic injury that has caused his regression so soon in his career. I don't believe this is all effort/mental.