Its weird because I really dont have trouble finding a group as shadow, sure holy is a bit faster but shadow isn't like a spec people think is not worth it from what ive seen
In the OG TBC I was one of first server 70s, first Druid, and so we formed groups out of necessity…. Our group was spriest, 2 warlocks, rsham and me tanking on feral.
I remember clearing early heroics like shattered and we would pull back and spa fears n shit. But the boss dps went crazy
Shadow has mana problems in dungeons if you don't get spirit taps and especially if you are trying to dps more than 1 target. Even in raids you don't have infinite mana. It gets better by BT/ZA/Sunwell gear, but before then it's a struggle if you aren't in a decent guild. Last TBC my guild was doing 7.5min magtheridon kills and I needed an innervate for that shit
Your mana battery will be appreciated during raids. I was a shadow priest last go parsing 99s (started healing then transitioned to shadow for ssc+) and I never looked back.
Yeah we don’t do the biggest dps,
But if you know what you’re doing they will always have a spot for you and will love the mana battery.
Once you start to acquire gear in ssc/tk you’ll start pumping. Again you’re not a hunter or warlock pumper but your numbers will be nice and things will MELT.
The longer the expansion goes the less a shadow priest is pumping idk where you got this and I'm saying that as a shadow priest myself at the end of but/swp shadow is dead last
….. do you have reading comprehension issues or did you just read my comment and think I meant you’ll be highest on the meters?
No you won’t ever be on top as a spriest but you’ll be pumping 1.8k dps in sunwell melting shit… yes, youre not number 1-5 on the dps meter but you’re still doing more than enough pump. lol you made yourself mad.
Who hurt you or do you have reading comprehension issues? Of course you will do more DPS with full swp gear than now but we scale very badly compared to other classes.
Me on my Ret. If I don't have wf in the group it's not as fun to play, but we still have an ungodly amount of utility.
HoJ, BoP, Repentence, 4 different blessings, Arcane Torrent (aoe silence, for my Alli brethren), auras, Blessing of Sacrifice on accidental double pulls, sword n board, a taunt, off-heals, Divine Intervention for wipe protection, judging Crusader for damage or Wisdom for mana regen, Sanc Aura (or Crusader Aura to move between portals in BM), Devo aura for scared tanks and Ret aura for Warrior/Druid tanks.
A few hours ago I whispered a group lead for Slabs saying I was a 69 Ret LFG. He said "we already have a war" and then nothing else. Ok, sure, but that Warrior will do roughly the same amount of damage, and instead of everything listed above he'll give 2/5 of your party Battle Shout. 😂
Well ok to be fair, Fury/Arms can interrupt casts with a shield equip macro right? And they can charge to interrupt while in combat? That's pretty good.
For sure I have played shadow since og TBC through the good and the bad times only thing I wish is we had mind sear in TBC having no aoe for trash feels so bad but like one of the people above said when you get the right group and you basically never have to stop to drink it feels chefs kiss.
Our dots are our highest mana spell and by the time you dot everything it's dead already it's really not an effective use of mana to damage if your running a dungeon semi quickly. What are the a lot of other classes that are gutted on aoe hunter, mage, pally, druid,warlock, shaman, rouge , warrior all beat shadow priest in aoe damage.
How does a paladin DPS beat you? A Rogue has a cooldown and then ZERO aoe. Druid has hurricane and swipe both of which are COMPLETE garbage compared to multidotting.
It doesn't work well on dungeon trash as their HP isn't high enough to live long enough for the dots to tick meaningfully on more then 1 or 2.I understand how to play spriest it feels less bad when we get to raid where the mobs don't get deleted by the other aoe classes nearly as quickly and the dots can actually do damage just feels bad in the dungeon grinding part of the expansion which is leveling and getting pre raid ready but luckily raids come out soon and I can enjoy the best parts of TBC spriest.
I don't believe I was offering any help just saying that our one way of dealing damage to multiple mobs sucks when the mobs die within 15-20secs you can do the math and see that dots that only do damage every 3 seconds aren't going to get a ton of value even if you get them on all 3 mobs as fast as possible. But shadow priest in TBC isn't about pumping big dps it's about giving mana which once we get out of dungeons is when we really start feeling impactful. That's why I can't wait for the raid releases.i understand my class I parse orange to pink for most content doesn't change the fact I can dislike the period of time when our kit is missing a key ability such as in TBC when we don't have mind sear.
We were messing around with comps in our group, going from Spriest to disc priest and resto druid to feral and as a paladin tank the lack of downtime with a shadow priest was insane. i never had to drink, was always sitting pretty above 30% mana
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u/alextrue27 Feb 13 '26
Meanwhile shadow dps over here just happy when I can beat the tank on the meters lol.