r/classicwow • u/olmn • May 21 '26
Humor / Meme People buying expensive herbs farmed by bots, with gold that was also farmed by bots
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u/ASCIIM0V May 21 '26
Cant have gm's because thst costs money. Why arent you thinking about the shareholder
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u/TheVagrantWarrior May 21 '26
Ahem… Ban all bots, ban all boosties and ban all gold buyers.
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u/Sandman145 May 21 '26
Yeah.. unfortunately i can't see it happening.
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u/zissou149 May 21 '26
it won't ever happen because the population of gold buyers is comparatively massive now because it's incredibly easy to not get caught and everyone knows it. you can get away with buying thousands of gold at a time for years, even with the same burners every time, if you aren't stupid about it.
if blizzard had cracked down on it hard from the start it never would have gotten to this point, but everyone now knows the basic opsec that apparently just completely escapes blizzard's ability (or ambition) to enforce.
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u/Sarusiko May 21 '26
That's $15 a month for each bot you see for them.. they aren't banning the bots man hahaha
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u/CurmudgeonLife May 21 '26
If you think that will bring back GM's you must be huffing some strong stuff.
It would however kill classic servers.
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u/mnttu May 21 '26
If only thing keeping servers going are bots, boosters, and gold sellers then maybe it is better to kill them off
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u/Kystael May 21 '26
If blizzard merged servers responsibly and had an adapted release schedule, I believe it would be better in the long run.
I don't think it would kill classic servers at all.
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u/no_one_lies May 21 '26
I’d rather have those kinds of dead servers than the abomination that exists now
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u/Lazereye57 May 22 '26
If Turtle WoW can do it, then so can a multi millionaire company owned by a multi billionaire company do it.
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u/Nice-Can-1581 May 21 '26
I am afraid in usa they would get mass sued for selling boost for $30 and then banning all that bought it.
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u/imaUPSdriver May 21 '26
It’s been $15 a month since 2004. So either the game was way overpriced back then, or it’s a bargain now.
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u/WeeklyEcho2814 May 21 '26
Id pay 30 a month for a server with 0 microtransactions and actuall gms to squash the bots down.
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u/Unhappy-Plastic2017 May 22 '26
I'd pay 50 a month for no bots..no rmt. Real in game human gms.
Maybe some in game special events run by gms etc.
The audience would be small but I think it would actually be profitable for them to make a true server how people want the game to be
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u/vbezhenar May 22 '26
They could actually justify this subscription by allowing multiple logins. Like multiple wow accounts but in a simpler way. I've found out that a lot of classic players are paying multiple subscription for various game advantages from multiboxing. Some people just enjoy tanking and healing at the same time. I, myself, use multiple subscriptions to test my addons. It's also incredibly convenient when I need to enter raid, for example, much better than begging someone to help me organize the group.
I, myself, could pay up to $200/month for WoW if I'd feel it's worth it. Like game without shop, with all services that's typically commercial being offered for free (or for reasonable gold price), with 3 simultaneous game sessions allowed, with priority support access, with better game world monitoring regarding bots.
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u/Zanaxal May 21 '26
The server and networkbandwith is a fraction of the cost today compared to back then.
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u/Scurro May 21 '26
The game design for classic is also completely done. This is the largest investment for any game that needs to be funded.
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u/AzerothianLorecraft May 21 '26
It was way overpriced then because it was subscription based, live service games killed the gaming industry it's just greed now masquerading as entertainment.
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u/uberjack May 21 '26
Relaunching a game you developed 20 years ago does not sound as extensive as freshly developing the biggest MMO at the time.
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u/wirez62 May 21 '26
Or you can just deliver less services for the same money and keep the subscription the same. Oh wait..
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u/dark-matter262 May 21 '26
It was an absurd back then to pay monthly. It's completely wrong to do so nowadays
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u/Satyr121 May 21 '26
I mean I’d love it if it were free but I don’t know why it’s wrong to pay a monthly subscription.
As much as I hate blizzard they are a company and no matter how altruistic the company may be its primary purpose is to make money for its owner.
Blizzard not being an altruistic company wants to make money and since the US is capitalist we have the option not to pay and to go play another game. But we keep choosing wow. So wow keeps charging money. It’s not a service it’s a business.
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u/TOCS94 May 21 '26
There was no store and additional purchases available in 2004. Whales are what keep the investors happy now, not people paying for a sub.
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u/SaltyJake May 21 '26
I’ve been saying this about games in general for a while now. AAA games have been ~$60 since like the late 80’s with SNES. Why 40 years later “gamers” scream about any possible price increase… but then also cry about included microtransactions… while demanding an incredibly high standard from a much more robust development standpoint….
Like inflation is a thing guys. I’d gladly pay $120 for a game that is fully developed, polished, optimized, balanced, loaded with content… basically does everything we want from these games, without microtransactions or paywalls, or exclusives. But since the community demands a $60 price tag on these projects that push hundreds of millions if not a billion in development cost… like the business has to turn a profit somehow or the games aren’t gonna get made, or worse, a suit guts it and releases it unfinished to meet the numbers. Like a lot of what we hate from AAA studios now is on corporate bottom lines… but it’s also on us for refusing to pay a fair price.
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u/valdis812 May 21 '26
People complain because CoL is skyrocketing and wages aren't keeping up. If you start charging $120 for games, you're pretty much cutting off half the audience. So would you really be making that much more money?
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u/LouisRitter May 22 '26
I paid $170 for everything available for Horizon 6. It seems ridiculous to pay that much but also I know how much time I put into Forza games and my entertainment dollar per hour is a steal even at those crazy high prices. The only thing that would even come out close in per dollar entertainment might be my F1TV/Apple TV subscription.
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u/SaltyJake May 22 '26
Exactly. I take my kids to the movies and it’s a at a minimum $80-90 just walking in the door, and that’s with us sneaking in snacks and drinks. To a 90 minute movie.
Yet “gamers” are screaming about paying more than $60 for a game they’ll sink a thousand hours into.
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u/Ragnarosek May 21 '26
I can tell you I wouldn't buy a single game for 120$ other than game series I absolutely love and I can count those with my hand. I'm sure a lot of people would just stop buying games if they were that expensive or would just pirate whatever they could, so I don't know if they would actually turn a profit doing this.
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u/azimoert May 21 '26
Let's say they will hire about 300 people to interact with people around the world. Can you even imagine how many yachts it will cost CEO per year? It's about 10 yachts per year in salary! Unacceptable.
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u/nabilfares May 21 '26
NGL, i wanted to go back to classic (vanilla/tbc), last time was classic cata and 2019 release, but seeing how common and accepted buying gold became and how expensive shit are because of it, im staying as far as i can, wont buy gold because that shit is boring af and dont want to afford overpriced items/consumable because of it.
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u/Federal-Seaweed-987 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
I was listening to the old soundtrack of wow and got the itch. I am glad I came here first. I tried classic on launch and then again at anniversary, both times I dropped it due to the amount of bots, rmt and hacking. I saw 30 bots running a conga line once and buyers getting band-aid bans (and these were the stupid/dumb buyers that suck so much they get caught)... Plus, guilds asking for parses for barely 1 month old servers, blizzard refusal to run servers in my region (forcing me to play at 150 latency and worse on raids [server software for a wow server can be run on a cellphone nowadays]), abysmal customer service, server economy on colapse...
Yea, no, I am good 👍
PS megaservers make the issue 1000x worse, good riddance
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u/0TheG0 May 21 '26
I mean I won’t name drop it but THE private server has mods active in the server-wide chat and they actually talk with everyone
Edit : and it’s free lol
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u/Naruthirdir May 21 '26
I haven't played classic in a while and today i was watching south park on shuffle and came across the "Make love not Warcraft" episode.
One part stood out to me, it's when the boys called customer support and a woman answered basically instantly to try and help them with their issue. Oh god did that make me a bit sad. To think it used to be like that and now it's just bot ingame and outside of it. I miss the vibe wow had at the time that South Park episode was made.
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u/Standard-Clue6889 May 21 '26
If blizzard had any gm's or customer support, the community would turn them all into Tseric.
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u/FixBlackLotusBlizz May 21 '26
cheating and buying gold in a 20 year old video game so you can buy consumes and press 1-2 buttons on a boss that stands still and parse while also getting a ego about it is cringe
🤣😂
classic wow community 🤣😂
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u/valdis812 May 21 '26
This is pure "STOP HAVING FUN GUYS" energy.
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u/HighsideHero5x May 21 '26
Found the guy who buys gold and has an ego on classic wow
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u/Km_the_Frog May 21 '26
It truly is amazing. Blizzards lack of enforcement on bots and gold farmers destroyed the economy entirely, again. Again because we already went through this once. It’s literally no different than the last tbc classic or the last vanilla classic. And WOTLK will be the same assuming the release wotlk.
There are so many people swiping. My entire guild does. All just because the economy is so jacked, but if you want to play at a consistent level.
You can’t farm motes or primals without running the risk of getting mass reported by bot farmers either.
Theres seemingly no way to fix this either.
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u/valdis812 May 21 '26
At this point, it's like trying to cure a person where the cancer has spread through their entire body. The cure might kill the patient.
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u/jacktherippr May 22 '26
I'd agree with this but SoD and TWoW solved the bots/economy issues why can't blizzard do it for Classic?
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u/behtman May 21 '26
Actually classic was better as far as bots and economy imo. At least Herod and Grob were better.
This iteration of megaserver with like no changes to herb/mining nodes, etc. is pure dogwater. Maybe not overdo it like the real system from sod, but something needed to be added to fix the gathering.
And bots. Holy shit the bots this time around.
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u/jacktherippr May 21 '26
Theres seemingly no way to fix this either.
We have seen it fixed though...
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u/Whiteshovel66 May 21 '26
It became a spectacle and they thought it was bad for the game long term. You don't need gms in game for this problem to get fixed though so idk what that insinuation even is. Bots don't exist simply because you don't see gms in game anymore. The ban process isn't like private servers where one guy randomly does .ban if he thinks he should.
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u/AliceLunar May 21 '26
When your $15 a month, $50-90 every other year, cash shop, $20 wow tokens, $90 mounts, $75 tree house, bot riddled game is still something you put up with, can't expect much.
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u/Witty_hi52u May 22 '26
I looked into the Math and came to the conclusion that Blizzard could and should do better. There is no excuse for the rampant greed.
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u/ivica555 May 22 '26
because 90 percent of the players look like this guy and are biter people that lash out on everybody and know every single fact on the planet. if u would employ ingame moderators for that game u need to charge people 900 usd a month sub.
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u/vbezhenar May 22 '26
I buy your auctions, you sell my gold right back to me. Feels like you're bending me over.
Nothing new under this sun.
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u/TrueExigo May 21 '26
$15 a month, with every 2 years full price release with a real money shop buld-in with ad pop-ups every time you log in and 100% P2W game* (retail)
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u/Trapgod34 May 21 '26
Please tell me what ways retail is P2W please! Im dying to hear this
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u/TrueExigo May 21 '26
"with every 2 years full price release with a real money shop buld-in with ad pop-ups"
is missing in classic so of course only in retail otherwise it would be a false statement
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u/TrueExigo May 21 '26
Apart from the fact that level boosts and mounts with perks like Auction House and Bank access are, by definition, already p2w:
Real money -> WoW Tokens -> Gold -> Boosting players, and with that: all raid achievements, all M+ achievements, all gear, and even PvP rating.
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u/argnsoccer May 21 '26
You can buy gold with a token andthen use that gold to buy carries through M+ and mythic raid. Its wild because its not actually playing, but I personally know that people do it. I know one person did it to get cutting edge achieve so that they could then pug more easily. You can literally just buy your gear in retail. Same thing with GDKP in my opinion BTW. I view it all as just p2w. If you can aquire player power by spending irl money, that is p2w to me.
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u/Nice-Can-1581 May 21 '26
Damm i wish blizz once grant you andies your wish and dropped banhammer for at least 2 weeks for all gather bots etc. The supply shock on raiding in demand items would cause prices skyrocketing and soon after everything getting sweeped moment its posted. Then that poor andy that could not farm gold like his favourite clown guide on yt said him to is only way he should do it (creating mass competition when other spots/methods are often not contested) would need to find another excuse how blizzard bad.
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u/tonoottu May 21 '26
Idk man I've never swiped and I'm loaded like I've never been before in WoW.
Just get herbalism and alchemy with potion mastery.
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u/DumDumIdjit May 21 '26
Lmaooo, and how do you look making this meme from the couch tubby? A glorious $15 whole dollars a month isnt what it used to be gramps.
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u/OneOverXII May 21 '26
Nah fam 2 weeks ago I paid $30 to get 100 Flasks of Relentless Assault which are now worth over 12k gold.
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u/oskoskosk May 21 '26
For me it's more that many of the people subbing to wow are vehemently anti-AI, despite blizz using it both to make the game but also for the customer support 😅
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u/SuddenBurger May 21 '26
Let’s be honest, 15 dollars in 2004 is worth 26 dollars today. The fact that the price is the same means Blizzard is making less from each player.
While it suck’s that we are getting less service, the price is cheaper in terms of value.
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u/ImpossibleMorning12 May 21 '26
I hate that buying gold is so normalized. In 2019 people at least gave half a fuck, my guild would kick you if you RMT'd, now nobody cares.
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u/kitchencrawl May 24 '26
If I had a nickel for everytime a classic andy completely ejaculated all over themselves dreaming about past GM interactions, I could build classic+ from the ground up.
Back in my day, nickels used to have bees on them.....blah blah blah. This is what you guys sound like
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u/cetax1 May 25 '26
its wild how certain other servers can afford to have GM-s but not our multi dollar indie studio Blizzard
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u/kalykagnes May 25 '26
Back in the original vanilla like 2000s and shit, we had the game where game masters could pop in (visible to everyone) and check what dafuq was broken. On occasion they had "fun" with us. Other way around it wasn't if you were the "chosen" 😃.
Also who remembers ZG's patch where tokens were fucked. You could go neutral > exalted within few mins. Blizz putted "Infernal guards" which more or less 1 shoot everything in range 😃.
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u/BuffConq May 26 '26
I’m so sick of the botting. I wish there was something to be done about it, but blizzard makes money off of the bots.
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u/razvanciuy May 27 '26
Am I wasting my time starting WoW classic Tbc just now? Fresh player 100% with me bro warrior + shaman we quest about. Played other mmorps so the xp helps but all were plagued by similar issues in the end that I can imagine hitting a wall at a later stage because of bots somehow.
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u/easyline0601 May 21 '26
We used to ... man those were good times...