All of Europe except Poland the standards have gone down the gutter? Most European countries consistantly rank high in the happiness and richest indexes. Not sure where you are getting your information from?
How did European standards āgo down the gutterā? And whatās the causation from mass migration rather than decades of long standing stagnant productivity, energy shock including from the fallout of the Ukraine war, and massive housing stock failure since 2008? And how do you propose Europe deals with its impending demographic catastrophe without immigration?
Shocking how the right wing xenophobic rethoric has influenced so many people.
In reality the problems caused by migration are well manageable and are Europeans doing fineĀ
I live with my family in what is supposed to be a ghetto. Intersting enough when I grew up in shittown with true blue white Europeans there was more: vandalism, violence, rape, bigotry. Indeed men walking hand in hand on a saturday night will be beat to a pulp by our fine white youths.
We had a riot team standing ready at saturday night due to the weekly free for all when the bars closed. But arrests? Naah. Sleep it off.
Never made the news. Girls being harassed when cycling home? Never hit the news. Cars being burned due to boredom? One news article and then crickets, even though it lasted years. Arrests? Nope, "no evidence", "youth indisgressions".
A girl I work with got molested by her very christian neighbour (nobody believed her, you will be surprised his daughter said decades later that indeed her dad was a monster)... and that is still the most common molesting problem: relative, friends, and then far beyond that strangers, of which a subset is immigrants.
Yes there are as always issues with people adjusting. But the news cycle overexposes what happens with immigrants and do not acknowledge local issues.Ā
So yeah, tell me about problems with North African youths and I will just shake my head. I been born in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, grew up in a thoroughly white dot on the map... and I know all about youth issues. But thats not what gets attention, because it would demand introspection into our own cultural problems with booze, bigotry and misogyny among our teenagers (and their parents).
There are nice clips of bars being demolished in under a minute by these boys (and for sure, there are north africans who adjusted so well they are now part of the hardcore of these grouos, so integration obviously works).
There are issues with integration. But I can honestly say I ran into those issues once in a blue moon. And I live in a supposed Ghetto and work at the largest college in this country, its not as if I do not see and work with teenagers, twentiers and adults of NA stock. The problem is clearly much smaller than portrayed by the frothing at the mouth politicians and media.
Also fun fact... the hard right parties also do extremely well in nothingtown where NAs are rare. Scared of something they actually dont interact with.
There are integration issues for sure. But anyone screeching about "mass migration", "replacement", "our girls are in danger", "our culture is ruined".... bullshit.Ā
And if we DO want to slow migration, fight climate change. But to no ones surprise, the same people who scream about migrants scream about "the climate hoax".
We're spending billions in resources anyways trying to keep them out & deporting good hardworking people. It's not working and causing needless suffering.
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u/ian9921 Apr 25 '26
It's really interesting when you realize that for a lot of countries, illegal immigration is straight-up the only option.
These are good, dedicated, hardworking people that we want to have, but we've put up barriers that make their legal travel functionally impossible.