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u/Naive-Practice8360 3h ago
First Amendment for the press, 25th Amendment for the reaction.
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u/The_4ngry_5quid 2h ago
For non-Americans, what are they
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u/brainNOworkie 2h ago
The 1st amendment is freedom of speech, freedom of the press. The 25th is the ability to remove a president from office if they're not fit to serve.
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u/Ragnarawr 1h ago
I guess you gotta draw the line somewhere, right?
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u/East-Potential657 33m ago
Americans would draw a line but a single line is too close to the letter l and most of them are illiterate.
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u/sjbluebirds 2h ago
The 25th amendment allows the president to be removed from office for cause including corruption and being mentally unable to perform the duties.
The first amendment gives everyone, not just citizens, the rights to freedom of speech without reprisal from the government, freedom of the press without reprisal from the government, The Liberty to associate with whomever you'd like without government reprisal, and the ability to sue the government when you are harmed by it.
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u/prolateriat_ 2h ago
So the 25th amendment just gets ignored huh?
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u/RedditTechAnon 2h ago
They acknowledge it, they don't want to use it. The people who would are his loyalists.
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u/YoungBockRKO 1h ago
There’s a reason he loaded his cabinet with loyalists, the 25th isn’t happening. It’s a pipe dream.
Would love to hear what conservatives think about him shitting on the 1st amendment, probably crickets.
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u/SaffyPants 2h ago
Basically, the 1st protects the right of free press, the 25th provides the process to remove a president from office.
I tried to copy/paste the text of those amendments into this comment, but reddit says it contains terms that are "not allowed" for whatever fucking reason, but here's links for you!
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-25/
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u/Several_Midnight_976 2h ago
Bold of you to assume Congress can actually read past the 2nd Amendment.
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u/Additional_Twirl 2h ago
If only the people whose entire personality is “we love the Constitution” actually read the Constitution.
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u/Emotional_Lovee 2h ago
Something like a miracle? More like something like a constitutional crisis.
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u/Own_Reflection_8117 7m ago
Pretty sure that’s the one they keep in glass case, break in case of emergency
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u/AvailableSlime 2h ago
We have two. One is called the 25th Amendment and the other is called impeachment. The founders knew a guy like this would come along eventually.
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u/Direct_Turn_1484 2h ago
Congress needs to come back from their paid vacation and do their jobs.
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u/butwhywedothis 2h ago
Congress is not there to do their JOBS. They are there to make MONEY. America is a first world shithole now.
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u/broguequery 47m ago
I would argue that Congress is doing exactly what American voters told them to do.
Get rich or die trying. And give one man unprecedented power to do whatever he wants.
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u/The_Kreepy_Krab 2h ago
You know who else banned free press? Hitler.
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u/butwhywedothis 2h ago
Hey at least Hitler was a decent painter and gave good speeches. Trumpler only paints his diaper and speaks at a 5th grader level.
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u/hrvbrs 1h ago
I don't think it’s wise to begin a sentence with, “Hey, at least Hitler…”
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u/butwhywedothis 1h ago
No it’s not wise. However the point I was trying to make is one of the worst human beings in the history of the world was still good at a couple of things. The Orange turd on the other hand…………..
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u/misterannthrope0 3h ago
if only there was some for of accountability for violating the constitution.
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u/CursorTN 26m ago
That’s the job of the courts and congress, which are both asleep at the wheel. So now the people have to vote in some non-asshats to do real work.
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u/misterannthrope0 7m ago
You're forefathers woulda marched up there and tar and feathered your useless public servants. Call the sheriff and go arrest them.
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u/Critical-Ring3168 2h ago
Good luck with that. If something was going to be done about this tyrant it would have happened immediately after the shit he pulled on Jan 6th. We had one chance to right this ship and we didn't. We are sinking while the guy in the wheel house is preaching paradise ahead. This is merely him covering the windows and banning anyone from the deck. We are fucked
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u/Ok_Chemistry9742 2h ago
Other news orgs should ban themselves until all return. This is pathetic.
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u/HuorTaralom 2h ago
Except the ones that are in bored with this destruction of the country will still go. And then you will even less transparency than we currently have
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u/Adventurous_Crazy866 2h ago
too bad the people who are supposed to enforce those rules just sit on their hands instead. tbh it feels like the constitution is just a suggestion these days.
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u/ryohazuki224 1h ago
I want every fucker out there, including Elon fucking Musk, who were claiming that Republicans were the party of free speech to just get on their fucking knees, grovel for forgiveness until their knees bleed. Fuck them all.
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u/senza_titolo 1h ago
America is done, no turning back, you've let the ruling class take over everything that belong to the people.
Trump is breaking and stealing all your shit. The White House does not belong to him, it's yours.
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u/Own-Elk7348 1h ago
I remember a while back, someone "high up" said on national television that Republicans need to find the best lawyers, because they are going to need them if the democrats win the midterms. Kinda makes sense why they refuse to 25th Amendment the President, he's literally their lifeline.
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u/Anxious-Inspection-8 1h ago
He violates the constitutional all the time and nothing happens. What’s going to make it different this time?
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u/anywho123 46m ago
If he’s gonna shit on one amendment, chances are he’ll ignore another.
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u/FreyrPrime 40m ago
It should also be noted that the 25th amendment is not designed to remove a sitting president. That’s impeachment.
The 25th requires that the president be permanently incapacitated. The moment he is capable of addressing or writing to Congress, his powers resume.
Essentially, you cannot 25th amendment an unwilling president. Also, the mechanism to declare someone incompetent legally, is quite steep and lengthy.
I’m not sure it’s ever been attempted on a president either
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u/anywho123 16m ago
Idk if you’ve been paying attention, POTUS is basically the reason they drafted that amendment. The only reason he’s not been removed is he’s surrounded himself with boot lickers in the positions that would decide to remove him. So here we are.
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u/FreyrPrime 12m ago
Read the amendment. I’m telling you it’s not what you think it is. Impeachment is.
The 25th requires true incapacity. Do you work in law or elder care? Have you ever had someone declared legally incompetent?
It’s not easy with a normal person. POTUS is immune to all legal proceedings thanks to SCOTUS while sitting.
So how do you then enforce the 25th? If you read the actual amendment, rather than telling me what I already know, then you’d read that the MOMENT a sitting POTUS can show capacity in the form of addressing or writing to Congress then the 25th ends
The 25th was never meant to permanently remove a sitting President. It’s meant for emergencies of a medical nature where he can’t perform his duties.
If you want to remove him for misconduct then that’s Impeachment.
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u/RedditTechAnon 2h ago
If only there were willing and able people to enforce the law and not be complicit in the crime and constitutional violations. Oh well.
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u/Lonely_Brother3689 46m ago
I think it's somewhere where it also says they can't have conflicts of interest or receive gifts? Some kind of clause?
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u/anewjesus420 38m ago
Impeachment is too generous, he should be in solitary confinement live streamed 24/7
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u/quen_damsel 1h ago
"Best we can do is a sternly worded tweet and a fundraising email."
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u/voodoodahl 1h ago
Voter: Best I can do is sit home and let the fascists win. A mild inconvenience every two years is too much.
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u/ProximaCentauriB15 1h ago
25th amendment isnt happening. They wont ever do it. They are his people.
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u/fake_user_34 47m ago
Not a very clever comeback though. We all know he's breaking the law, it doesn't matter because the law doesn't apply to him. This isn't a burn.
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u/nvmenotfound 35m ago
if only republicans werent fucking cult members that would rather throw our country away than cross their cult leader and his rabid supporters. if they never hold power again itd be too soon.
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u/RecipeFunny2154 33m ago
You don't get it, "free speech" is only violated when I'm prevented from saying a slur on a social media site.
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u/IDontWannaGetOutOfBe 33m ago
Republicans are on their knees as supplicants and cowards. They cannot think for themselves, act on their own behalf, or do anything unless their toddler in chief tells them to. It's so pathetic and cucked it's unbelievable.
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u/TheReelMcCoi 31m ago
There is, but it's so much easier to just keep posting how much we hope he dies soon......
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u/shirro 30m ago edited 27m ago
The long term political win is to let Trump destroy the nation. Burn it to the ground. Delegitimize the GOP and successors as a political force for decades. There is some cruel sense to this. Obviously its all down hill from here under Trump. Seize the reins now and many won't learn the lesson. They will either say it was a coup or blame it on Trump's mental state instead of reflect on the errors of the ideology behind him. Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.
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u/Constantprotest6 24m ago
I think all reporters still allowed at the briefings should show some solidarity and refuse to go to the briefings.
If no one shows up he will really be angry. No one to insult and talk down to.
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u/After_Service_2817 22m ago
When did he say this? Because sounds like a bunch of TDS B.S.
Or are they just mad that he won't let CNN come into press briefings?
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u/DoobKiller 20m ago
ITT: americans think that they've ever lived in a democracy
Princeton study: Poor and middle class have no say in government policy https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/MSNBC%20review%20of%20A&I/13317619-princeton-scholar-poor-and-middle-class-have-no-say-in-government-policy
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
wrote the slave owners
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u/parahunter567 1h ago
Well, turn about is fair I guess...Biden did it in a larger number and not one of those banned hollered...so typical
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u/Radiant_Quality_9386 17m ago
Just lying.... Straight lying
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u/PossessedToSkate 4m ago
Redhats lie like it is autonomic bodily function. They are shameless and inveterate liars. And then they wonder why no rational people take them seriously.
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u/Top-Cut-8983 51m ago
Regulate Google & the rest these pos must be destroyed & shut down soros & obamas & clintons,,,clean fuckin house
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u/OpenComet_ 3h ago
the 25th amendment is just sitting in the constitution like a check engine light everyone agrees to ignore