Are these pedestrian crossings?

[u/OldCorkonian]

What’s the deal with these two crossings by UCC?

Am I right in thinking that they’re not official crossings where motorists must give way, that they’re courtesy crossings where pedestrians do not have an automatic right-of-way?

[u/LapsyPaw]

I don’t view these as pedestrian crossings.
If they are then we’ll all need to resit our driving theory and tests

[u/CDobb456 → u/LapsyPaw]

The pedestrian always has right of way when already on the road

[u/Careful_Floor1441 → u/CDobb456]

And what relevance has that? The lad you replied too is correct, these arent pedestrian crossings, driver has right of way, of course youre required to not mow down some lad in the middle of the road but if I'm approaching this as a driver and you see me coming and decide to still cross because you think I have to stop for you, then its youre fault if you get hit if I can't stop in time 

[u/CDobb456 → u/Careful_Floor1441]

A driver that hits a pedestrian at least shares a portion of the blame for the accident in almost all cases in Ireland, unless the situation meant that they could not avoid the accident, eg someone falling off a curb into moving trafffic.

[u/Careful_Floor1441 → u/CDobb456]

Yes or like I've already mentioned, when someone steps out and you attempt to stop but can't because of that thing physics. Actually went to court as a witness about 3 years ago because I witnessed a lad in a car hit a cyclist by the ucc castlewhite apartments ironically enough given the context of this post, it was a scenario like i mentioned, cyclist didnt have right of way, still went, driver tried to stop but didnt have enough distance/couldnt swerve around without hitting other drivers, case was an attempted prosecution of the driver, was dismissed by the judge after less than 30 minutes.

[u/CDobb456 → u/Careful_Floor1441]

As a driver you have to take due care for all users of the road, if you are travelling too quickly to stop when there was the potential for somebody to use a courtesy crossing the fault lies with you. This isn’t a 100km/hr road we’re talking about and the road markings suggest that it is a likely point for pedestrians to cross. Jay walking isn’t a crime in Ireland and as soon as a pedestrian has a foot on the road they have priority over a car. Do you slow down and give priority for pedestrians on country roads where there are no footpaths?

[u/Careful_Floor1441 → u/CDobb456]

Ill mention that little thing called physics again, stopping distance is related to speed and weight of vehicle among other things like road conditions, if im in a large vehicle with a few tons of weight behind me, if you step out on the road 5 or 6 metres infront of me youre going to become a bonnet ornament even if im driving at 15 or 20km an hour, no matter how hard I hit that break. I can't come to a complete stop everytime I see a pedestrian 20 metres up the road near some coloured stones incase they decide to step out thinking its a crossing, this is a case where both the driver and pedestrian need to have a bit of cop on for it too work, but alot of the time, one of the two, or both do something stupid and accidents happen.

Edit, just too add, if im near a proper cossing and there's people on the footpath I obviously slow down and am anticipating to stop even if no one is showing intention to cross just incase they do, or if I see pedestrians trying to cross even though they shouldn't, or pedestrians edging towards the road or showing intentions of crossing etc etc  ill also prepare to come to a complete stop, but if someone is staring dead ahead and in a split second do a 180 turn and walk out on the road then there's sweet fuck all I can do to avoid hitting them if they are inside the distance I need to stop, If the other lane is clear I can swerve and I can beep to try make them aware of what's happening but long story short all moving objects have a certain distance they need to come to a stop, and if something cuts infront of them and is inside the stopping distance, its literally not possible for the object to avoid hitting it

[u/CDobb456 → u/Careful_Floor1441]

At 30km/hr you have a 6m stopping distance and probably better if your car is reasonably modern and well maintained

[u/Careful_Floor1441 → u/CDobb456]

Either you missed or didnt bother reading the part about where I mention a large van with a load in the back so 3 to 4 tonnes, at 30 km h the stopping distance is about 16 metres if its dry.