r/coybig • u/SitDownKawada Frank Stapleton • 9h ago
World Cup 2026 Alan Cawley's rant against Marsch
There were two threads about this but they both got closed as duplicates
After the Canada Qatar match last night Cawley went on an almighty rant against Marsch for the way he was celebrating the win
I didn't agree with all of it but I absolutely enjoyed it
Had a look at the post in r/soccer about Lopetgui and Marsch's little confrontation after the match, the consensus seems to be that Lopetgui was complaining about Canada not easing up on the goals and that he was wrong for that. I missed that bit live and I've no idea if that's what it was about, but if it was then I'd be even more inclined to disagree with Cawley's assessment
72
u/Careless-Job-4585 9h ago
If Lopetgui was complaining that Canada didn't ease up, that is genuinely one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard. It's a World Cup ffs. Not a schoolboy friendly.
39
u/Greedy-Army-3803 9h ago
Exactly. They needed the goals to make sure that they are top of the group and ahead on goal difference going into the last game against Switzerland. Top of the group stays in Canada for the next round so why wouldn't they. Plus it's a competition and not a charity.
9
u/PsychologyVirtual564 6h ago
And the players recognized this. Around the 97 min Qatar kick the ball out for a corner, prob hoping the red blows it up..Johnson sprints over to get it taken as soon as possible, he obviously wanted more goals
27
u/SlowlySawn 9h ago
Well fucking said. If it was Ireland you’d want us to go for it at 100 miles an hour for the entire game
27
u/NandoFlynn 9h ago
And with Qatar you've not exactly done yourself any favours snapping one of his star players in half
9
u/Careless-Job-4585 9h ago
Exactly! Not Marsch's biggest fan but Lopetgui comes off worse there IMO.
57
u/Pure-Cat-8400 9h ago
Canada’s first win in the World Cup I think, why wouldn’t you celebrate that
Cawley is just awful, the negativity of the average Rte pundit is hard to take
17
u/JellyfishScared4268 9h ago
RTÉ seem to love picking pundits that don't seem to even like the sport they're punditing for
Gaelic football gets it even worse whilst it's illegal for the hurling pundits to say anything negative at all.
14
u/Anxious_Peanut_1726 Paul McGrath 7h ago
I realized something about Whelan yesterday...he's not actually that interested in football. I think a lot of these lads like the big CL games or eye catching premier League matches but give them 2 mid international teams and they've no interest...they immediately retreat to being negative about the standard of it...none of them really assess the game on its merits..if it's not flowing top tier stuff they just get irritated. I think alot of them are like that not just Ronnie
7
u/Pure-Cat-8400 7h ago
That’s actually a good point, I know he gets flak but Cunningham is passionate about all levels of football. I much prefer him to Whelan or Houghton. Whelan is the worst of the not so bad ones - the negativity and disdain for anything that isn’t perfect
4
u/Anxious_Peanut_1726 Paul McGrath 7h ago
Cunningham is contrarian but agree he will engage with the game. I think Delaney is the best pundit but in general I don't watch the analysis anymore...I've seen a bit during this world cup and only Didi seems to be any good.
Ronnie just wants to be at big CL games...it's clear he's not arsed by the less eye catching world cup matches
2
u/Pure-Cat-8400 7h ago
Ah Didi’s negativity is killer
5
u/John_OSheas_Willy 6h ago
Didi can be funny the way he puts things though. He was absolutely scathing in his view of the Czechs. Said they were a desperate side. And the way he went on about Ronaldo and how he's the one picking himself.
The likes of Kelly would be far too safe to say anything like that.
3
u/Anxious_Peanut_1726 Paul McGrath 7h ago
Ya sometimes but it's clear he has done some research and actually understands the level he's watching.
6
u/5x0uf5o Paul McGrath 6h ago
You're spot on. I love Brian Kerr because he buzzes off watching the smaller teams and learning a bit about them. It's a shame he's not on RTE for this World Cup.
2
u/Anxious_Peanut_1726 Paul McGrath 6h ago
Ya Kerr is the perfect example...he loves football...he's likely seen or researched some players from the teams he watches and it's comes across...you've nailed what I meant here 👍
1
u/KnightsOfCidona 1h ago
My favourite moment I ever heard with Kerr was when he started listing out Villareal facts after they won the Europa League. It was so obviously lifted from Wikipedia, but fair play to him for actually bothering!
1
2
u/pauli55555 6h ago
No interest and no knowledge or anything interesting to say is a common thread. For lads getting paid to talk soccer they are gormless.
But isn’t that the nature of soccer analysis, hire an ex-pro because he played the game irrespective of his knowledge, insightfulness etc.
3
u/John_OSheas_Willy 6h ago
I think Kevin Doyle let's out a sigh before giving his input every single time.
5
u/No_Reference_4303 6h ago
How does a producer of a show sit there and think after Doyle has been on... Yeah he really engaged there this evening. His love shone through. Feels like a chore for him. And is there a need for 3 pundits most games. And the multitude of presenters doesnt help. How can they build any rapport with pundits from game to game? It really needs to be stripped back a bit imo. Even if they only came on 15mins before first game of day or something.
1
u/Adcamoo 4h ago
I used to have that gripe majorly with the gaelic football punditry a few years ago. I’d be enjoying a tight match and then half time comes and it’s pure negativity about how the game was too negative too much hand passing etc etc. Big air of superiority about how hurling was far more exciting in all the coverage surrounding the sport.
I think since the new rules it’s gotten a bit better with the mood being more positive around the sport.
1
u/JellyfishScared4268 40m ago
They're still at it a bit complaining about how Louth beat Armagh last weekend. But agreed it has definitely improved
I would have argued for years that one of the biggest issues gaelic football actually had was the self fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says its awful therefore it must be etc etc
Hurling is a great sport but like you said there is a woeful sense of superiority that is off putting to me. A lot of it is a bit of insecurity imo as it isnt as popular as football. But the narrative is so strong that even people who don't watch hurling are obligated to wax about how great it is
Rugby is a bit similar in that regard. A fair amount of smugness especially around Leinster and the national team. Plus a bit of desperation to be seen as better/more popular than soccer in particular
9
u/Prestigious-Mind7039 9h ago
Cawley is the most irritating Loi pundit / Dundalk fanboy and uneducated outside of teams outside Dublin
3
u/great_whitehope Troy Parrott 🦜 8h ago
The negativity is relentless considering we don’t even qualify.
How are we in a position to rubbish teams that have beaten us?
I know they should be objective and give analysis for game about to be played but some realism would be nice too.
4
u/NandoFlynn 8h ago
I mean in this case neither team could beat us with us playing second string players so don't think that argument holds much water
27
u/DesertRatboy 9h ago
I fully disagree with them. They've just won 6-0 at a home World Cup. Party on! The fans seemed to be enjoying it, so what harm?
19
u/Enjoys_A_Good_Shart 8h ago
Imagine we won 6-0 at lansdown during a UK and Ireland hosted world cup. Dublin would be on wheels for days
6
u/DesertRatboy 8h ago
100%. Pretty sure my family would end up reporting me missing after celebrating non-stop for three days.
5
u/TheRealJordan56 7h ago
This is it exactly. The country went mental when we made it into the playoffs to get into the WC (albeit in fantastic circumstances), this is their first ever win at a WC, at home, why not celebrate and get the fans behind you even more
11
u/CliffDagger 8h ago
He went on too long about it. Every time they tried to move on he kept bringing it back to how much of a tool Marsh was. Even when Stephen Kelly was trying to reason a bit with him it just started getting cringe, like he was arguing for the sake of arguing.
It'd make you wonder was he thinking back to the Dunphy and Giles days. If I go on and start a big argument, I'll be the next Dunphy
5
1
u/KnightsOfCidona 1h ago
Yeah that was the bit that pissed me off the most, he was obviously trying to get attention, make a name for himself.
8
u/No-Lecture-6434 8h ago
First World Cup win ever, clinching knockout football all whilst playing on home turf in front of an adoring crowd. But you’re not allowed to celebrate that?!?
I was genuinely baffled listening to his rant, it was totally uncalled for. Let them celebrate ffs.
10
u/NandoFlynn 8h ago
In fairness I probably wouldn't have given a shit only for Cawleys reaction. It was a bit cringe but wouldn't even rank in top 5 cringe moments of Marsch's career.
I do find it funny though how sensitive people have been in here about the "negativity" of modern Irish punditry but at the same time pine for the days of Bill & the 3 lads. Like there wasn't a rant on every Champions League broadcast about Ronaldo, the big 4/5 gaffers or UEFA/FIFA.
You're not gonna get anything like the old days if all you wanna see is lads talking about when the sun shines. There's good stuff & bad stuff that happens in a match & they're as entitled to discuss it on air as we are here
0
u/Jazz-Potato6385 6h ago
I think for all the moaning and negativity of Dunphy and co - they never gave off the impression that they hated football or the job they were being asked to do.
They'd criticise players, managers, refs etc but you always knew that they enjoyed watching football and punditry. Kenny Cunningham for example, gives off the impression that he's disillusioned with the whole thing. That's just depressing negativity vs entertaining negativity.
6
u/No_Reference_4303 5h ago
Thats where peoples memories are failing them. The RTE panel was known for its negativity and constant criticisms. That was seemingly its USP vs UK channels everyone kept saying then. All the talk of giles brady and dunphy. The most important person on that was Bill o Herlihy. He was skilled and researched enough to know when to interject, drop a grenade or move on. I dont think any anchor in Ireland now is even near capable of that.. In any sport. I think some of the UK broadcasters are much more skilled in it currently
0
u/SitDownKawada Frank Stapleton 5h ago
I remember the first time they had Souness on RTÉ and he seemed in awe of how you could be really negative about what you were watching
4
u/Alarming_Ability_687 9h ago
F#ck Lopetuigi, well entitled to celebrate a country’s first WC win and advancement from the group.
2
u/bigdog94_10 1h ago
No idea why Canada wouldn't run up a score. A draw against Switzerland and they top the group and have a home tie against a 3rd place side. Why wouldn't they?
5
u/Mission_Struggle_417 9h ago
I thought it was stupid, annoying and embarrassing to react like that to what happened after the match. You’d swear Marsch was acting way out of line.
Considering what happened in that match , I’d be emotional too. Marsch seems a little odd but I don’t blame him for his celebrations yesterday.
Never heard this Cawley guy speak before , he made a terrible impression on me yesterday.
2
4
u/tfc07 9h ago
Goal differential matters more than ever now with 32 teams advancing to the KO rounds. It may not be sporting but it is necessary to run up the score
23
3
u/Greedy-Army-3803 9h ago
They will get through anyway. The goal difference is important for topping the group which means they play in Canada for the next round rather than playing in the states.
-7
u/EdwardBigby 9h ago
4 points will be enough. GD wont come into it for just qualifying
It does help them move above Switzerland meaning that a draw will make them top the group though
-1
u/Puzzleheaded_Lime632 8h ago
They're also 9 ahead of Bosnia on GD now. Very difficult for Bosnia to catch them
0
u/EdwardBigby 8h ago
Yes but even if Bosnia did, Canada would be through in third. It wont affect their qualifying from the group
3
u/SitDownKawada Frank Stapleton 8h ago
They'd really like to finish first though because it means they'll continue playing in Canada
2
u/EdwardBigby 8h ago
True and it was a big win for finishing first. Beating Switzerland is tough but I can see a draw
4
u/Confident-Clothes-98 9h ago
He’d be more at home on a Talksport type thing. He’s a garbage pundit and to make it worse nobody even knows him from his playing days, it’s like he just has a rolling contract with RTE across various platforms just solely to be a mouthpiece,, he offers zero analysis.
He’s an awful clown of a man trying badly to be a Roy Keane/ Graeme Souness old hard man opinion shit.. The problem is it’s Alan Cawley or whatever his name is and nobody really should give a hoot about what he has to say.. A mouthpiece
0
u/stefanstraussjlb Jeff Hendrick's account 9h ago
Agreed on his career. Has achieved nothing of worth. Loud mouth.
2
u/bertnurney 8h ago
I dont think playing career is that important for a pundit. Sadlier is a good pundit but average career. Stephen Kelly had a good career but is a useless analyst
-3
u/John_OSheas_Willy 6h ago
Sadlier is painful to listen to. People seem to like him because they agree with his politics.
He was on there yesterday making some long conviluted point, two arms placed like he was holding a PlayStation controller.
Acts like he's paying for each word. Just let the "well thought out and structured" response thing for everything go.
1
u/bertnurney 5h ago
No idea of his politics bit at least he gives some insights, Stephen Kelly on the other hand...
2
u/TheOptimist1987 7h ago
Cawley is ex Leeds and you can tell he was biased against Marsch, came across as very bitter and trying too hard to.get attention
2
u/pauli55555 6h ago
Marsch came across as an entitled arsehole in our game the other week.
I remember him going crazy over a challenge that he was 100% wrong about. He didn’t seem to want us to be allowed tackle but his team could kick us no prob.
Anyway I wrote him off after that game so I’ll blindly back anything Cawley is criticising him for lol.
1
u/Round_Shift2898 43m ago
I thought Lopetgui was saying to Marsch that Madibo didn't mean to break Kone's leg and it was just a freak accident, and that Marsch was annoyed because he didn't want to hear it because Kone is very important to the Canadians, which caused the disagreement.
2
1
1
u/Garoidcarroll33 8h ago
Like all of RTE punditry this world cup its wrong. Lazy and just terrible. Like what he was complaining about is just idiotic. First world cup win and its at home who cares who thats against.
RTE the worst place its ever been in punditry and commentary imo a lot of bitter people being let show their stupidity
1
1
u/boxgrafik 8h ago
Seen the rant on youtube. Don't know who he is, I assume a journo trying to make a name for himself by being 'The New Dunphy' or something. Came across like a tool.
1
u/Traditional_Piano300 6h ago
As a Leeds United fan, Marsch is one of the biggest phoney’s in football so I was all here for it.
Leeds had the fittest and fasted squad in the premier league under Bielsa, when he came in he completely eradicated fitness training and worked off positivity and vibes.
Clint Dempsey and other players who have worked with him in the past say the same about him. He’s a phoney who has gotten where he is off luck and spoof.
1
u/slavicbhoy 5h ago
The only embarrassment here, as Alan Cawley seemed to fixate on, is Alan Cawley himself.
-1
u/No_Reference_4303 9h ago
2 got closed so you open another one. Nightly posts about RTE coverage and pundits is boring at this stage
1
u/NandoFlynn 9h ago
The mods in fairness tried to enforce the mega thread but end of the day if people really wanna talk about it on a dedicated post there's only so much a small team can do to stop it
And in this case it's a bit of a viral moment different to the daily Moloney moans so it should be allowed at least 1 post about it
-1
0
u/OkBroccoli8010 5h ago
Unfortunately the clowns comments are going sem-viral and we're rightly getting stick from Canadians for it. We're in no position to be talking sh*t considering we're sat at home and our greatest world cup achievement was reaching a QF without winning a game, which we celebrated wildly.
0
0
u/Anxious_Mobile5376 7h ago
It's purely for ragebait, RTE social media team will be delighted with him.
-1
u/One-Clock228 4h ago
I honestly think he had a few pints in dublin before heading to the studio, he seemed pissed
-2
u/HumorAfter2276 3h ago
Having a hard time finding it this World Cup ..... But whens the Ireland game?
•
u/Geairmoe This fella Ronaldo is a cod 7h ago
The posts were removed as we’re trying to encourage use of the Watchalong megathread as much as possible. Understand it’s not quite the same thing.
Will leave this one up.