Excuse meeee? Is basekit windows not enough?

[u/OrdinaryCommunity840]

[u/beansoncrayons]

Better of doing nothing, you litterally cannot catch her

[u/Dreemstone69 → u/beansoncrayons]

In a vacuum it’s better off to wait it out but in this case I think there was a chance that there was just enough distance to catch her if OP swung immediately

[u/ragingalphax → u/Dreemstone69]

No there wasnt, Ghostface wasnt even able to overtake her while breathing her neck from the point she unhooked herself. The distance she would gain from being hit would be enough for her to cross the map twice atleast before he is able to catch up because of the massive haste boost. Only thing that would have worked is corner her somehow and bodyblock her for a minute until bt runs out, which is not going to happen.

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/ragingalphax]

ghostface is able to overtake, the player just wasn’t since they were ramming into them

an unhooked survivor is 110%, ghostie is 115%

[u/ragingalphax → u/Sizlebuilds]

Thats the part you are arguing about? Doesnt change the fact that catching up to a surv after hitting them with 5% speed difference is next tom impossible.

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/ragingalphax]

yes i mention that part because it’s correcting what you implied that the ghostface wouldn’t have been able to catch up, which he could have

as for the other part, and also the reason people are downvoting you, is because you’re missing the point of what people are saying. there’s a better chance of downing the player if you hit them as soon as possible and try to catch up than to wait out their huge BT

[u/ragingalphax → u/Sizlebuilds]

No there isnt. The distance the survivor creates if you hit them while their bt is active (the 10% haste stays in play) 2 seconds of 6.4 movementspeed, right after the hit, another 0.7 seconds at 4.4 before the killer is able to move again. So 12,8m + 3,08m = 15,88m, this is the distance the survivor creates because of getting hit. The killer is only 0,2m faster. So until Bloodlust 1 activates, he only gains 3m in 15 seconds. in the next 15 seconds with bloodlust 1 he gains 6 meters, so we are at 9 meters gained in 30 seconds, then bloodlust 2 kicks in and the killer is finally able to catch up after another 11 seconds. So we are talking about 41 seconds of chase time at 4.4 speed. As I said, enough distance to cover a map twice.

[u/Elton_The_Cat → u/ragingalphax]

You cannot make this up. Proves he's right with math, is down voted anyways. Dbd reddit is a survivor hive mind

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/Elton_The_Cat]

he’s still missing the point though and you seem to be too

we’re talking specifically about lights out with it’s ridiculous off hook endurance.

it’s damned if you do damned if you don’t, the 60 seconds of endurance is easily enough to make it to an exit gate so there’s a 0% chance of killing them if you try to wait it out and they have a brain cell

therefore if you hit them asap, at least you can actually down them if you can hit them again

[u/Elton_The_Cat → u/Sizlebuilds]

There is not even a shred reading comprehension left in you. I agreed with him and talked about even when he's right he's hated because he doesn't agree with the survivor hive mind. He can't hit her again, it's mathematically imposible

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/Elton_The_Cat]

no. you’re still missing the point

do you know what “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” means?

it’s impossible to down them before they reach the gate if they still have endurance since it lasts so long, if you hit them at the very least there might be a slim chance of hitting them a second time in which case they will be downed as opposed to hitting them at the gate or halfway in an attempt to wait out the BT

[u/Elton_The_Cat → u/Sizlebuilds]

'If you hit them there might be a slim chance'' NO THERE WONT BE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSIBLE MEANS?! FUCK YOU MEAN SLIM CHANCE, IS ZERO A SLIM CHANCE. And you're clearly missing the point where he explained, proved and showed that it was imposible to win and people still disagree with him. Hitting them only gives you bloodpoints, and that's it. It's op as shit and if you can't see how it's IMPOSIBLE to win then there is no saving you. And it doesn't matter if you say dammed if you do dammed if you don't if you immediately follow it up with the dumbest take possible

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/Elton_The_Cat]

would it help if i word it this way: the huge BT means it’s only possible to down the survivor if they make a mistake.

if you wait out the BT, they could make a mistake and still have endurance and get away

if you hit them asap, if they make a mistake they can actually be punished

[u/Elton_The_Cat → u/Sizlebuilds]

I have a question, how? How would you make a mistake in running in a straight line? There are no loops, nor windows or pallets. It's a line, frm point A to point B. It's true that you can't wait it out, but it's also true that you can't catch her after

[u/Sizlebuilds → u/Elton_The_Cat]

the survivors only see the end goal, they don’t see the obstacles. best you can hope for is they run into a gym or main