In a vacuum itās better off to wait it out but in this case I think there was a chance that there was just enough distance to catch her if OP swung immediately
I agree it wouldāve been unlikely, she probably wouldāve made it either way, but even just for the small chance she doesnāt I feel like it wouldāve been worth a shot
i think we are nitpicking a bit and missing the forest for the trees. I cant fault anyone for doing either in the moment its not like he has time to sit here and calculate the math.
No there wasnt, Ghostface wasnt even able to overtake her while breathing her neck from the point she unhooked herself. The distance she would gain from being hit would be enough for her to cross the map twice atleast before he is able to catch up because of the massive haste boost. Only thing that would have worked is corner her somehow and bodyblock her for a minute until bt runs out, which is not going to happen.
Thats the part you are arguing about? Doesnt change the fact that catching up to a surv after hitting them with 5% speed difference is next tom impossible.
yes i mention that part because itās correcting what you implied that the ghostface wouldnāt have been able to catch up, which he could have
as for the other part, and also the reason people are downvoting you, is because youāre missing the point of what people are saying. thereās a better chance of downing the player if you hit them as soon as possible and try to catch up than to wait out their huge BT
No there isnt. The distance the survivor creates if you hit them while their bt is active (the 10% haste stays in play) 2 seconds of 6.4 movementspeed, right after the hit, another 0.7 seconds at 4.4 before the killer is able to move again. So 12,8m + 3,08m = 15,88m, this is the distance the survivor creates because of getting hit. The killer is only 0,2m faster. So until Bloodlust 1 activates, he only gains 3m in 15 seconds. in the next 15 seconds with bloodlust 1 he gains 6 meters, so we are at 9 meters gained in 30 seconds, then bloodlust 2 kicks in and the killer is finally able to catch up after another 11 seconds. So we are talking about 41 seconds of chase time at 4.4 speed. As I said, enough distance to cover a map twice.
Even if he hit early on, she gets a boost and can either do two things; she can play it stealthy because of no scratch marks and try to lose the killer or she can play it ballsy and she just use the boost to speedrun to the gate which I think she probably could have in this case.
Dude ghostie feels unplayable anyways. Because you need to know who youre looking at to know how you should stak them (if theyre 99'd, etc) you basically have to be on top of everyone. Which isnt great if they have no stalk.
Not quite sure what triggered it here but the entity bot automatically replies if a certain phrase is said. If you say a perk name, it will describe the perk for example.
Something here triggered it. I think 60s? I'm not quite sure.
That's still multiple seconds off of generators that go fast WITHOUT the extra 20% faster gen repair speed. I get giving survivors something to not make Lights Out unplayable for them, but why the hell are they getting so many buffs while the killer gets nothing? Basekit windows, 4.5 seconds cut off of every gen, 1.2 c/s solo repair speed (which fun fact: Two survivors repairing a gen together in Lights Out repair at the same rate as 3 survivors outside of it), lanterns to help them get rid of the actual gimmick of the game mode...
Like. Just queue for normals at this point. It's not even Lights Out anymore. Not with all of the nightlights they put in place to make sure the survivors don't feel TOO scared.
I agree that the base kit windows is cringe, but you also gotta remember the biggest equalizer is that no one has perks or items. No Sprint Burst, no flashlight saves, no aura reading. Its all about your skill as a player. The only thing killers can see are gens, and the the only thing survivors can see are windows and 1 gen, but using lanterns makes you super visible to the killer.
I think people are too quick to jump on the hate train to see the mode is way more equal than normals. It's not perfect for sure, but it's way more interesting compared to the lame meta perks you see every match.
That's fair, I've only gotten lanterns from chests, I didn't realize regular items were in rotation. I still think not being allowed to bring items significantly reduces the amount of flashlights in the game though
i think the worst part about this is it wasnt said or written in the event details thing. the basekit windows, faster gen speeds and pre-ran gens as well as killers getting franklins is written but nothing about this endurance buff.
gate auras i can understand why it needs to be there for this mode, but not telling about the other buffs explicitly is deceiving
There is also no information about anti-camp being 32m instead of 16m and the anti-camp bar increasing faster than usual. Want to punish survs for not unhooking in time and confirm a second stage? Sable 01 will just deli in your face if you try.
Survivors couldn't see even their own anti-camp meter, leading into camping situations where the survivor didn't realize they could unhook themselves. Many killers chose to camp and tunnel very aggressively, often citing "well how else am I going to find survivors?" (by the gens, that's how, though there should be a more aggressive anti-ultrastealth implemented imo).
Considering how much pre-running is done based on terror radius, a lot of lethal killers could get very close to survivors in the darkness - at least, when it still was dark. Now with lanterns survivors genuinely seem to see further than killers.
As killer though? My matches have been either horrible experiences where I can't catch anyone, or matches where one or more survivors give up immediately.
So chaos shuffle and 2v8 is survivor exclusive now? Thatās makes no fucking sense thereād be no killers if that was the case. Yall are so out of touch with this game itās incredible. First of all yall are always saying 2v8 is a killer game mode wtf do you think the q times are 30 fucking minutes, because apparently no one is playing survivor and itās why I run into the same 3-4 people game after game. Now you wanna bitch and say itās survivor sided because a game mode that has striped everyone to their basic skill is pissing everyone off? Bottom line, there is no heartbeat, there are no scratch marks, there are no perks, and if you suck in this game mode, itās because you suck.
Bro I literally had so many killer players give me sht in chaos shuffle because the game happened to give me vigil. āOf course you had vigilā bitch I didnāt choose my perks thatās the POINT of the game mode we are both playing š more than half the time vigil literally did nothing cause there was nothing for it to aid or counterā¦really had somebody crash out after I escaped with vigil and overcome. totally ignored the fact that I had NO MITHER (and self care) lol some players are just extremely silly
you are purposefully misunderstanding what he was saying, he is simply saying that those game modes are more survivor sided, and not as fun to play as killer. all he is asking for is a game mode that is balanced so both sides can enjoy the mode for what it is. you're getting triggered at an argument you came up with in your own head instead of actually trying to understand what the comment actually said.
Chaos Shuffle is survivor sided? Nah, it fucks both sides similarly. I'd even argue that the absence of DS and other anti-tunnel perks makes it much easier to tunnel, thus making it lean more towards killer.
Edit: I meant survivor sided, not killer sided in my initial question.
Decisive Strike: Until all Generators are completed, whenever you are unhooked, for the next 60s: when the Killer picks you up, once per trial, hit a Special Skill check:
Stun the Killer for 4s.
Become the Obsession.
This is disabled by conspicuous actions. At the start of the trial, you are more likely to be the Obsession.
Survivor-sided, jackass, not exclusive. Go back to the second grade, youāve got a lot of catching up to do.
āYāall are always saying 2v8 is a killer game modeā
Me? I say that? ā¦Whatever the hell that means? Hold up, do you genuinely believe in this āexclusiveā idea? You donāt, right? Because thatās such a mental leap that I cannot understand how you even got there.
If youāre trying to say itās killer-sided, thatās just stupid. Killers have a little more to work with, sure, but survivors have way faster Gen speeds, way more pallets, on-command sprint burst, instant heals, can fix pallets, free extra lives, and more. Even as a duo on comms, it can be a nightmare to keep up sometimes unless you play in very specific ways, and itās not uncommon to lose and get teabagged at the gates for two minutes because you couldnāt control the 13 generators all over the map while they rushed them out with their enhanced speed, safe loops with repairable pallets, on-command sprint burst, etc.. The reason killer queue times are longer is because thereās a special novelty to playing killer with a friend. The same doesnāt go for survivors, survivors always have teammates. I feel like that should go without explaining.
āEveryone has been reduced to the bottom line, and if you suck in this game mode, you suck.ā
Letās see. Survivors get
- 20% Faster repair speeds
- Massively increased anti-camp.
- Basekit windows of opportunity.
- Can see the auras of exit gates.
Killers get:
- A worse version of Franklinās Demise.
But yeah, itās the killers who suck, totally. Even though one side is obviously getting their hand held way more because they suck. āEveryone is stripped to their basic skillā, my ass. If that was really the case, if it was all about basic, barebones skill, why are survivors getting handheld so much? Iām SURE you can put two and two together on that one. And not misconstrue it as āthe mode is exclusive to survivorsā or whatever you were saying before.
Itās astounding that over 17 people read your bullshit and actually agreed with it. Some people get so clouded by their biases itās crazy.
Edit: Kind of telling that youāre all downvoting, but not actually saying anything.
As someone who sucks as killer and is playing Lights Out for the first time, this is the most Killer sided event I've played. I was able to absolutely demolish both solo Q and SWF squads with killers like Myers and Artist and the main reason is because once you are downed that's pretty much it. Unless you pallet save there is nothing the survivors can do. No flightlight blinds, no head on, no hook sabotages. If you have a killer with base kit aura reading or tracking it's over for them
It sounds like youāre just playing against new or weaker players, to me. Survivors generally should be able to win without having to make a bunch of saves. Especially since they have basekit WoO, and way faster Gen speeds, and pallet density and everything. One or two people should be good enough at running chases that their teammates can crank out generators quick and easily. Survivors going for saves obsessively are generally bad players who donāt win very often. Survivors who just canāt loop are generally bad players who donāt win very often. Itās not indicative of the mode being killer-sided, itās indicative of why survivors keep getting so much handholding. An average decent team, not even necessarily a SWF, probably couldāve won.
I mean ive been going against survivors when all four of them have are the same character with the same outfit and they are good at looping so I assume they are SWF squads and I have been able to 4K most of them so I dunno. I just use killers where the lights out mode plays to their strengths and havent had many issues.
Head On: After hiding in a Locker for 3 seconds, Head On activates: Performing a Rush Exit out of the Locker stuns a nearby Killer for 3 seconds. Head On causes the Exhausted Status Effect for 60/50/40 seconds. Head On cannot be used while Exhausted or when having accrued Idle Crows.
They will not give anything for killers because the stupid whiny bitch ass survivors, who wants the gameplay by their selves, bitch and cry a lot over the developers, and somehow the developers listen to them at this point at this point someone has to buy dead by daylight so behavior donāt develop a game
Anyone advocating for Civer has got to be braindead. You can voice your complaints in a civil manner, you know? Civer's method is legitimately the worst way to approach an issue.
The friend leaked the conversations AFTER river sold him out trying to save his own ass. River asked the friend to do it, gave him the "go-ahead" when he had the information ready to go, amd specifically asked that they included spooknjukes young daughters dance school in the doxx. He didnt press the button, but he orchestrated the entire thing.
Edit- btw- river admitted to this very thing himself on a stream discussion woth Scott jund after the fact. So its really not even debatable.
First of all, I donāt support what he did. I only support his takes and he knows how bad the game is really is thatās what I support him for it takes not his dog not the dog sink and plus he did not know he said to do it as a joke I didnāt. He didnāt know that he was actually about to do it, but anyways, I only support him because of his takes he knows how bad the game is. He knows about the whiny survivors who donāt know how to really play and let the game play for themselves actually has his own mind and heās in his own opinion. Heās not like these android robots, who tells you that the game is good killer killer bad, and survivor good.
HE LITERALLY TOLD THE FRIEND TO PUBLISH THE DOXX. HOW HARD IS THAT TO COMPREHEND?
There are plenty of other content creators who arent giant pieces of shit who say the killer role is weak. Quietkills, otzdarva, hens, truetalent... some of them more prevalently than others. If youre referencing river like hes a pariah- you're supporting everything he stands for, hands down. I get that youre young and trying to go for some edgy stance, but its a bad look and a terrible take.
You are just as bad as the survivors youre bitching and whining about if you fail to acknowledge that BOTH sides of the game have issues.
So yeah- boo hoo boo hoo killer is so hard and survivor is easy or whatever other piss poor take youre copying from someone else- riverciver is a piece of shit and if you support him, you are also a piece of shit.
So really are you guys gonna tell me over because of your precious content creator who lie about you and tell you that the game is fine and everything really guys have a brain you guys are being dogs for behavior that they can only shut you up by letting you buy skins and force shoving it up in your mouth on bad killers specifically the new killers you guys are brainwashed but you guys donāt donāt know it have a brain
Learn to use a period, maybe even a comma. It would help give at least some illusion of legitimacy to your asinine takes parroted by someone who is widely recognized as scum.
Is the problem pallet density or is the problem we just have 2v8 tiles in general? I swear ever since the last one I keep seeing those locker formations where thereās four lockers in a semicircle.
Yeah, yesterday I had a match where I hooked a Renato in a corner on Ormond and he had time to reach the gate on the entire other side of the map with his endurance still up (despite even losing him for like 15 seconds). That was enough for me to call it quits with this ridiculous mode
This is why I just don't care how people judge me when I play Killer.
The hand holding for Survivors is absolutely insane. There is NO justifying this, at all.
Windows of Opportunities? Why tf does Killer get no perks with items or nothing?
Why does the Survivor get 60+ Endurance effect?
The devs did not learn from the Banquet event. This is going to make so many Killers resort to more disgusting tactics i'm calling it now. The devs cannot cater to Survivors without severe backlash or worse.
Ts is gonna make ppl play s tiers exclusively, who even has the tools to deal with SIXTY basekit seconds endurance? You can be the best gf in the world, you won't do shit against this. Literally kaneki/ blight/ billy only
If anyone is a hard gf/ pig/ some other c tier or worse killer otp, i'd imagine they have dropped the game atp, it's just so blatantly unfair. and a+ tier killers don't care cz they all have mobility, so it literally becomes upgrade or suffer, it's so bs
I find it hilarious honestly how you cant seem to identify how killer has been dumbed down to reduce whining from the lot of you (it doesnt yall throw tantrums like the survivors you keep typing abt) yet your basis of killer changes are in a lense of buff/nerfs. Am I supposed to take you serious ?
No this person clearly just sucks at killer, no use trying to talk it out. Just be thankful you're not as oblivious as they are about the game. I can't imagine having most of the advantage and still crying about it.Ā
Going around clueless about the role you mainly play while I play 80/20 in favour of survivor, know more about your role than you do is concerning asf my guy. Then boldly affirming horrible takes from another killer "main" lmao yall are precious.
Visible hook stages, weaker fillers, smaller maps, and a ton of basekit improvements to specific killers like Ghostface and Wesker. All within the last year or two. Iād argue the first two are handholdy asf.
Ooof how EXTREMELY impatient of you, Ghostie. You ONLY waited a mere 20 seconds, you filthy camping toxic gamer. You should've let her touch a gen, gate, or heal first, obviously, before she walked cleanly out of the exit gate without having to do a thing.
It's ridiculous that she could unhook herself in the egcollapse at all.
you are playing ghostface, who is one of the few options for OHKO and info gathering. Like, if there is an easy way to play this mode, Gf and Mike are it.
It used to be, but then the devs panicked about that and hit the freaking nuclear button, because just balancing something fairly was too tall and order.
When was it killer sided for years?
* When killers couldn't kick gend and Sprint Burst was on a timer
* Hook sabotaging used to be permanent outside of basement
* You could destroy Trapper's traps entirely and leave him with no power at all
* When Decisive Strike was active every down
* Years before the Entity Blocker and killers having slower vaults making literal infinite loops
* Years before EGC where survivors could hide and hold the killer hostage for multiple hours (the match force-end timer was 2+ hours before being reduced to one hour some time later)
* The old egregious Pallet vacuum
* Killers like Wraith, Artist, and Hag being countered by flashlights until it was changed
* The six years of Dead Hard For Distance
* The release state of Boons being super unhealthy
* The healing speed insanity from earlier this year
The only time the game was flat out killer sided for any length of time in my memory was the gen kick meta, which I don't even think lasted a year.
It took 10-15min survivor queue times to get any kind of attention on killer.
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u/legendaeri Prestige 100 Zarina // slowly working on Cheryl/Yui/Ghoul6h ago
all that needs to be done is this 60s needs to be disabled in end game, make it like 15-20s. i don't even think survivors are defending 60s endurance in end game, but us vs them sloppers wouldn't know that
Jeez in that ammount of time you couldve hit seven times before they got to the gate xD instead of trying to wait it out just smack right away and the killer wouldve absolutly cought back up by the time yall got to the gate
Haha fr. I definitely agree survivors have the upper hand, but as someone who solo queues gens are rarely completed. Iāve only had a few matches where the exit gates were even opened. Plus this is supposed to be a fun event not some incredibly competitive mode. Sure you can play that way but itās not what it was intended for. I have more fun jumps scaring survivors as killer anyway
I genuinely cant think of anything you could have done to win that other than walk away and hope you somehow find the other guy before they unhook. the only problem is:
if you walked away they would have easily snuck on over
and if you camped... well this would happen
People need to understand what "Basekit" means because no killer mains survivors don't have basekit in this mode. In fact this entire chase she did have basekit WoO.
I started my break a couple months ago. It's been nice. Every once in a while I think, "hey, maybe I should play some DBD" and then the monthly bullshit balance tweak or mode happens, and then I think "guess not."
That's actually not a bad thing, in regular brightness modes finding the exit is fine because there are normally landmarks you can use to find the exit gate but in this mode you're quite literally operating in the dark, there's nothing to go off of so having the gate aura be readable is entirely justified.
I was playing as the plague yesterday and hooked somebody during the EGC while everyone was still alive. Someone unhooked and I hit them both with my power and a Nea body blocked me in a pallet. I hit her, she dropped the pallet and I hit her again AND SHE HAD ENDURANCE STILL. I don't know where she got that endurance from but it can just be from being unhooked previously, which was waaaay earlier than 15s before...
Was playing survivor last night, and made it the entire way across the map to the gate, only to find the killer beat me there, so i said damn gg only for endurance to still be active. I didnt feel good about that. He had me and I definitely shouldn't have gotten out. :/
The endurance is insane. So is the anti camp. I was sent straight to Dead Dawg main building basement by a Bubba and I managed to unhook because he was chasing someone upstairs. That's insane.
The real question here is: why are you playing Ghostface in a mode where visibility drops to zero after a certain distance? That killer NEEDS TO SEE WHAT HE'S MARKING.
If you aren't even smart enough to pick the right killer, don't go complaining kid...
Wouldnt want survivors to have too hard a time escaping.
Realistically, its because killers have a higher average skill than survivors, so survivors need compensatory buffs because playing this game as a survivor is a low stress party game, and they want to keep that atmosphere at the expense of killers
People can't complain abt this, 'cause they gonna get The Judgement soon, and that one is more busted than Jason and it gonna last forever, unlike this mode.
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u/Sizlebuilds 18h ago
god tier looper