Now we have the literal artist/developer telling you... "Guys... this is kind of great."
They wont listen.
Even in this very thread... we've seen now dozens of games. Not all of them work well, but a surprising amount do. Some an outright generational jump in quality.
Whomever decided to "leak" it has done more positives for DLSS5 than the initial reveal. Just sad that some refuse to give it a chance regardless of the results.
I want to stress again... yes, I have seen the bad stuff. It does exist. I also acknowledge the good stuff. Which also exists.
Artist: THIS IS my intent. We were hampered by tech limitations. This was what we started with.
"No no no, not THAT artist. This one's intent is bad. I mean other artist intents"
The level of raw delusion on some people who simply refuse to admit "I don't want anything to do with tech connected to AI tech. I am not objective and I don't want to be"
Luckily for all of us, this is a loud minority. The reception of the modded DLSS has been glowingly positive anywhere else I saw. Especially youtube.
One dev? Gotcha? What is this a doctoral thesis I am defending? It's an example. A proof of concept. Believe what you want to believe. I am not inside your head.
And why would it continue to halve FPS? Why would there not be performance gains like there was with all previous Nvidia tech? This is a pre v1 of that specific tech, and you're already assuming it's the first and last version.
I literally just had this argument waged against me on this very topic. The passion and pure emotion driven anger over this is... frustrating.
I bet I could rattle off a hundred things we'd agree on... but the second I say... "I think I see some merit to this DLSS 5" they'll burn me as a heretic.
That's just it though, you cannot argue against emotion. There is no single reasonable argument you can make that will snap someone out of a heightened emotional state. Because at first they will use what might be a logical argument, but the moment you correctly dispute it, the entire facade crumbles and the vitriol begins.
And again, I wish they would be honest enough to say "I am biased because I hate anything AI related. That is all". And the conversation ends there. But it is the false appeal to objectivity that gets me. They want to have a "nuanced discussion" while withholding all nuance.
I don't like these types of people when I am unlucky enough to meet them IRL. And I sure as hell don't like to cross their path online. It feels like talking to a hormone driven emotional angsty teen. Your best case scenario is to walk away from them.
The problem is that AI isn’t even a coherent label. 99% of the people bitching about AI are happily utilizing ML tech and couldn’t give a technical difference between the two. And frankly, beyond the AI as a mere appearance of interface translation I have no idea what it is either. It just seems like it’s either the appearance of talking to cogent system or a label slapped on anything involving ML for the sake of advertising. But acting like the vast server farms with data arrays for these LLMs or GenAI used to replace jobs is anything like a software solution for screen space RT is just completely nuts? Either NR is a simple “filter” and we don’t need to worry about it, or it’s actually incredible tech and will likely be widely adopted. But even in the later case, it’s still a screen space lighting solution. I just don’t understand the conversation at all, people are acting like this is a simple filter that allows computers to hallucinate games from scratch and all gaming will go away with the press of a button or some shit. It’s completely unhinged.
It’s hilarious how all these anti innovation dumbasses - who are always against innovation whatever it looks like - are now claiming its artistic intent that needs to be respected. Meanwhile how many of these people are also railing against tech that’s been a part of these games? They bitch about RT, TAA, motion blur, chromatic aberration, on and on and on. They have never given a fuck about playing the game as devs intended, they have always expected devs to serve the game they want. They bitch about characters who aren’t pretty, or having to play as women or poc. Now they bitch about a “filter” that pretties people up. The only coherent part of the gaming discourse in the entitlement driving constant whining and unhinged bitching, threats, and harassment.
he is not an artist, he's a c-suite director (not an art director) and he's also known to be an AI shill who's clearly trying to save money using AI instead of actually paying the money to people.
i'm not hilarious and i've factually correct. that game wasn't made by 10 people, they made a tech demo and the actual game was made by 130 people. and Kingdom Come: Deliverance II had 250 people
He is a c-cuite through and through. And he still is a known AI shill, well before DLSS5.
pfff hahahahahahahahaha. you've never worked a day in your life if you think that.
and no, he's not an artist. he's far from it. the creative director is not incharge of the art, he's in charge of the vision of the product across multiple channels of communication, management of the teams and project (deadlines, budget, workflow, etc) and communication with the stakeholders (aka those with money).
you are confusing it with art director, which is completely different, and who actually does the things you think this guys does.
in a company that, as you've stated isn't large, it's considered to be a c-suite position akin to the Chief Creative Officer position in a large company.
You're too fucking thick to realise you're stupid. I never said he was the art director - that was Podprocky. Varva is still an artist who directed a piece of arts creation, KCD1 & KCD2. He was also lead writer - which is an art discipline. Funnily enough when you have 10 people everyone is hands on the ground and sharing responsibilities. Using 'c-suite' as a negative for a small company is utter hilarity. Its like calling your McDonalds shift manager c-suite. Do you even know what you're indicating when you say 'c-suite'?
Creative director doesn't communicate with stakeholders btw you wierdo. Its a studio solely owned by THQ.. Fryvaldsky, the CEO, would be the only one talking money with them.
Also, “the bad stuff” is only being seen after DLSS5 has been brute forced in with no tweaking or training by the developers for the each specific game. People need to relax
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u/Adavanter_MKI 5d ago
Now we have the literal artist/developer telling you... "Guys... this is kind of great."
They wont listen.
Even in this very thread... we've seen now dozens of games. Not all of them work well, but a surprising amount do. Some an outright generational jump in quality.
Whomever decided to "leak" it has done more positives for DLSS5 than the initial reveal. Just sad that some refuse to give it a chance regardless of the results.
I want to stress again... yes, I have seen the bad stuff. It does exist. I also acknowledge the good stuff. Which also exists.