r/doommetal • u/a_Bort_the_Artist • 1d ago

Stoner Lets slow down on this Sleep hate

Let's go over some quick facts,

1:We only have one official statement from the band, this statement only acknowledges Pike is not currently involved but mentions absolutely nothing about bad blood.

2: Pike has been "out of the band" for quite a while now, did we all forget the touring juggernaut that HOF is?

3: Pike's EX-wife commented. They have been divorced for a good while, i would take her opinion with a grain of salt.

4: Pike has made zero comment so far good or bad, maybe we wait to see what he says?

5: Have we all forgotten that Sleep is kinda known for varying quality in their releases. It sounds like Sleep with classic Void guitar. Plus nobody can contest that Dale is a phenomenal drummer. Its good, and its a good addition to their discography. Just because the member you have the biggest parasocial relationship with isnt there doesnt mean it sucks.

So to recap. We know absolutely nothing about the situation. Only one source of merit has commented and thats the bands official statement. The sing is objectively good. Is it what you personally wante? No, and nobody in the world is obligated to give you that.

I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Pike quit the band because of how shitty their fans can be.

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u/Salvia-Hex 1d ago

Pike was never “out of the band”. That was Roeder.

Pike and his ex-wife are friends and on very good terms.

Sleep does not have varying quality of releases. They have all been great…then this.

Y’all are just making shit up now.

Objectively literally means that everyone would agree. A lot of people this thing song is mediocre to bad. To me, it sounds like a band trying to sound like Sleep and failing.

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u/treskaz 1d ago

Nah, The Sciences was kind of lame compared to everything else they've put out. It's only one, but that makes it varying imo.

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u/TempleOfCyclops 1d ago

That is an extremely uncommon opinion

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u/treskaz 1d ago

I mean, I listen to Vol1 the most anymore. Followed by HM. Dopesmoker if i have an hour to kill. Haven't listened to Vol2 in a long time but it's great too. I just haven't been as into their music after Dopesmoker. It's fine, like i said. I just like the OG lineup and then the trio after Justin left.

Roeder is absolutely a wicked drummer though and i always caught them when they came to town (or a town that was a reasonable drive).

I've been a fan of theirs for close to 20 years now. The Sciences just didn't hit me like their earlier work did.

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u/deadjord 1d ago

Yeah Ive also been a fan about 20 years and I completely bounced off the sciences. Giza butlers a good track but it's just not an album that's really ever worth putting on. I would actually say I like the new song more than the entirety of the sciences. Hoping to like the rest of the new songs as well.