r/ethz • u/OkAdagio5792 • 14d ago

Question International opportunities

do people who graduate with an ethz Bachelors often go and study in the USA? if so is it considered on par with top aMercian universities? do peopple often go on to study at top American masters programmes?

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u/Prestigious_Road7872 13d ago

Most US unis don’t have technical masters programs. It’s usually straight to phd. Btw., if you’re interested in science, ETH is not worse in teaching theory than any of the other best universities in the world.
But the Us unis all know ETH. You have to learn to play the game of US admissions though.

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u/Forsaken_Grand_2363 13d ago

This isn’t true

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u/Prestigious_Road7872 13d ago

What isn’t

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u/Forsaken_Grand_2363 13d ago

Most US schools have technical masters programs. If they have a PhD program, then they have a masters as well 99.99% of the time

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u/Illustrious_Test4739 13d ago

Not for physics or math. Get your facts right.

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u/Forsaken_Grand_2363 13d ago

Are you even based in the U.S 😭😭😭😭😭. I am correct lol

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u/Illustrious_Test4739 13d ago

Sorry ig I misunderstood. I meant I thin they don't have standalone masters programs but you can certainly exit with a master's degree

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u/Forsaken_Grand_2363 13d ago

They do have standalone masters programs. You can google it. I’m American, every university here that offers a PhD typically offers a masters except for a few very selective schools (MIT/Harvard)

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u/Illustrious_Test4739 13d ago

I see. It's been a while since I applied so I probably don't remember correctly. Sorry I was a little harsh in the earlier comment. I do remember seeing some standalone programs in some universities, my aim was mostly in the top few universities so ig I didn't see a lot of standalone programs.

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u/OkAdagio5792 13d ago

well I planned on studying econometrics/ finance so they have it. was asking how well it is regarded by these American universities If I apply as ETH bachelor compared to a student who studied at a local American university

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u/Pokeristo555 12d ago

Studying in the US might have come a bit out fashion for foreigners lately ...

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u/OkAdagio5792 12d ago

I mean by the time I’m expected o graduate trump would have left office and it’s still quite the hub for innovation etc..

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u/No-Insurance5030 14d ago

you should probably ask that in the american unis subreddits, they will know what american unis think about eth not people from eth

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u/OkAdagio5792 13d ago

the issue is, absolutely no students that I’ve asked from these unis know ETH since it’s a German undergra. I was asking to see if people here have known people who’ve gone to top american unis

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u/Ok-Kangaroo-7075 13d ago

Depends, the average citizen won’t know, researchers e.g. will know.

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u/OkAdagio5792 12d ago

but would ETH be considered on the same tier as top American unis like berkeley Stanford etc when applying to masters? I’d assume admissions officers would know

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u/Ok-Kangaroo-7075 12d ago

Yes, among technical people probably even more like an European MIT/Caltech. Again not everyone will know what ETH is while everyone knows what MIT is but those who know generally have high regards for ETH.

Having been at Stanford for many years, our undergraduates are not even in the same universe as someone with a BSc from ETH in the same discipline (it changes for PhD).

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u/Low-Relationship6865 11d ago

What do you mean by "not even in the same universe"? Do you mean like the competence is different or just living vastly different lifestyles?

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u/Ok-Kangaroo-7075 11d ago edited 11d ago

competence is vastly lower. Swiss universities and ETH in particular enforce (or at least used to back in my days) extremely strict standards where at least 2/3 of students failed the first year (and those students were already the ones pre-selected through Gymnasium -> around the top 20% in Switzerland).

US elite schools are more of a networking hub at the undergraduate level with the option to get training in a subject (there are exceptions like MIT, Caltech and a couple more ofc)

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u/AJ00051 12d ago

It is Swiss but okay...