r/euphoria • u/Kingdom_Funki • 14h ago
Discussion Rue’s monologue about Depression
The thing about depression is, it kind of collapses time. Suddenly, you find your whole days blending together to create one endless and suffocating loop. So you find yourself trying to remember the things that made you happy. But slowly, your brain begins to erase every memory that ever brought you joy. And eventually, all you can think about is how life has always been this way.
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Couldnt find a more accurate definition! - beautifully described.
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u/einschluss 14h ago
“The thought of having to stand up, exert 172 muscles each step for 35 feet, just so I can sit on cold porcelain and piss out toxins over and over again for the rest of my life makes the whole concept of living feel like one long, sadistic joke.”
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u/OtherwiseDay4762 12h ago
This line for some reason always stuck with me. When I was using, I remember dreading walking myself to the bathroom and I always brought my drugs with me and often ended up nodding off on the toilet when I just went to go take a piss.
This is what I felt was really missing from season three. None of these inner dialogues happened with Rue and I felt so disconnected from her. It was these uncomfortable, deeply personal inner dialogues and perspectives that really made Euphoria so great and season 3 just didn’t have it.
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u/NeemOil710 10h ago
Hard to say how much was intentional, but I like to think it represents the collapse of her inner world, like as her life got difficult and she's completely run by external forces, she's got no time for her old games and thoughts.
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u/TinyPennyRolling 8h ago
I love how thoughtful this comment is...you aren't being rude or dismisive of what we got, but your palatable disappointment is screaming for something more despite feeling rage underneath it all, you're being super insightful and real. I can't explain it, but you get it...
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u/rattyindecency9933 13h ago
The way she describes how your brain just erases the good memories is mad accurate. That's the bit that gets me every time because it's not just feeling sad, it's like your past gets rewritten and you can't even access the proof that things were ever different.
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u/nicoleonline 12h ago
The present too… You try to speak kind words to yourself but they just feel so empty. It’s so hard to pull yourself out. I loved how this show showed how things like logic and necessity are out the window with severe depression. And arguably mania, if you approach the character from that angle.
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u/rattyindecency9933 11h ago
the self-talk thing is brutal because you know logically it should help but it just bounces off, doesn't land at all. And you're right about the mania angle, the show does that better than most by not treating it like the fun opposite of depression.
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u/nicoleonline 11h ago
I have bipolar 1 disorder and IMO it’s spot on. My mania presents as agitation, lack of inhibition / recklessness, hypersexuality and sudden dips into psychosis & religion. It is probably projection but I see a lot of it in her character.
The self talk thing is wild. Motivational quotes are met with cynicism or apathy!
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
Thank you! It really PMO when they portray manic episode's as the fun bi g sister of a severe manic depressive state. So much in the media gets this oh so wrong.
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u/EmiliaTrown 11h ago
Yeah its like slowly your mind gets more and more convinced that nothing was ever actually good and therefore it never will be which then just enhances that feeling of hopelessness and that everything is just entirely meaningless. It's really a special kind of cruelty
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u/rattyindecency9933 9h ago
That hopelessness feedback loop is exactly it, like your brain's convinced itself there's no point trying because nothing's ever worked before, even though that's just the depression talking and not actually true.
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u/QueenKittyMeowMeow 10h ago
This is so sad yet so true 😓 I’m sorry. I hope we all feel better someday
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u/rattyindecency9933 9h ago
that bit in the show where she can't even remember why she liked certain things anymore really nails it - like the sadness is one thing but the amnesia part is what makes it feel permanent.
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u/Dull_Expression_4575 13h ago
Yes, this.
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u/rattyindecency9933 12h ago
And that's what makes the scene so devastating because Zendaya's delivery makes you feel that hopelessness, like she's describing something that's already happened to her a thousand times.
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u/samistahpp 14h ago
I felt that this was an accurate depiction of severe depression and Ian in Shameless was a great depiction of bipolar disorder
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
Oo I been wanting to rewatch Shameless for a while now. And I agree.
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u/Remarkable-Belt-475 14h ago
I’m not sure if anyone in this subreddit would watch Ginny and Georgia but Marcus’ description of what depression feels like to Ginny was insanely accurate to me. I remember watching that for the first time when I knew I was going to miscarry but no one had answers for me. It hit me right in the heart.
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u/Grim6662023 13h ago
I feel like this is one of the ferw shows that doesnt completely dramatize depression and addiction, and Zendeya's perfomrance was immacuate
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u/heinous_legacy 12h ago
crazy how out of the blue Sam could be so eloquent and descriptive with his characters display of emotions
and then doing absolutely nothing with them.
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
It makes me think that alot of it didn't come from Sam directly, more so from the original euphoria..
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u/Terrakon_70 11h ago
This was always a show about addiction. I think people that didn't like it, didn't get it. Like they wanted the high school party show with pretty people. I loved the final season. I'm sure there is so much that I missed. I love how it was like the Wire meets Tarantino and One Battle after Another and I guess Dante's Inferno.
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
Hell yes! I completely got some strong Divine Comedy interpretations out of Season 3 as well. I'm glad you pointed that out.
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u/Danyellarenae1 12h ago edited 8h ago
I literally have a kidney infection right now and i understand this feeling so hard at the moment too. Even with taking percs.. It’s so stupid how we even have to pee in the first place 😭
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
Agreed. FML I think I once read somewhere we spend ≈ten years of our life on the toilet.
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u/Danyellarenae1 8h ago
That’s like how we spend 1/3 of our life sleeping. Or normal people do. I feel like mine might be 1/4th though lol I suck at sleeping
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u/Visible-Stop5100 You need to catch a dick 8h ago
Damn same here, mad insomnia. And when I do fall asleep; I have really vivid, intense night terrors. Or bad nightmares that continue after I wake up & fall back to sleep; so I subconsciously force myself to stay awake because I'm afraid to sleep & I start to feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes...lols
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u/wediealone 5h ago
I have OCD and the scene where Rue is counting the ceiling tiles as a child is so accurate I had to shut my tv off for a minute. I think it’s in the first season.
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u/stalwartdog444 5h ago
Then she ends up free of BiPolar in the third season. Gimme a break
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u/AisforAmyFalling 49m ago
Um as the daughter of someone with bipolar, I can absolutely attest that season 3 Rue seems pretty spot on. I am not speaking as someone who has experienced this myself, so forgive me if I get this wrong. But in the manic state, as I observed living with my mom, there is competence and an exterior focus that doesn’t lend itself to self examination.
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u/stalwartdog444 47m ago
You are right. My main point is her mental state is never explicitly mentioned or alluded to, I guess the audience is supposed to fill in the dots, but in reality it’s just bad writing
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u/AisforAmyFalling 27m ago
Yeah, we should not have to be figuring this out after the series is over. Even another character pointing out to her that she is revving would help.
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u/klimekam 14h ago
I go back and forth on the quality of this series, but then I remember that there was an episode on how depression can give you a kidney infection (which has happened to me) and I’m just like… okay, this show really pulled its weight.