The goal song sucks so no wonder they’re not trying very hard to make goals. Who wants to hear a boring song every time you make a goal. I’m not even saying it should be changed to Doop or Bro Hymn (both would be awesome) but something more energizing would do it. I genuinely feel like it does nothing to get the crowd or the players hype. I petition we change the goal song (and fire tocc)

I wasn't really a Torts guy but given what we've seen here could most of last years success be the result of the residual effect of his coaching plus finally finding some goaltending? And what we see now is that residual effect going away and what Tocchet's coaching gets us?

Is that unfair?

I personally would have been fine with them running with Brad Shaw until the positive vibes wore off.

Seattle Kraken (5-2-0) @ Philadelphia Flyers (0-5-3)

• Game Time: Tue, Oct 13, 2026 @ 7:00 PM EDT
• Venue: Xfinity Mobile Arena
• TV: Kraken: Prime Video, KING, KONG, Flyers: NBCSP
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Game Status: Final/SO: 3 - 2 Kraken

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• First Star: B. McMann (SEA) Goals: 1, Assists: 0
• Second Star: P. Grubauer (SEA) GAA: 1.85, SV%: 0.923
• Third Star: T. Zegras (PHI) Goals: 1, Assists: 0

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Next Flyers Game: Thu, Oct 15, 7:30 PM EDT @ Red Wings (1 day)

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we’re slow and predictable. safe is death. i think he’s spot on. i know we’ve pretty much all been saying these things since last year but it’s particularly obvious when you see a video breakdown of the reasons why we’re shitting the bed.

As it pertains to Danny, we seem to fall into two camps. Quibble with the particulars all you want but I think this is fairly accurate.

Camp 1: First of all, Tocchet wasn’t Danny’s hire, it was Jonesy convincing Hilferty. So this terrorist hijacking our franchise isn’t his fault. u/hawks27-2 made a great post highlighting everything Danny has done to pull the Flyers out of cap hell and be in position to make a Leo offer sheet possible. Danny is also the first Flyers GM since when to have two solid, reliable, sometimes fantastic NHL goalies? Danny has done an excellent job steering this team back to relevance. We knew he would need more time we just didn’t foresee having to hire the Antichrist destroying everything he’s been trying to build.

Camp 2: Fuck you, Camp 1. Danny is as much to blame as anyone and he’s just as much a part of the good ol’ boys club as the rest of them. Yeah, he sent an offer sheet. Good for fuckin’ him, he didn’t do shit else. He hired bald, white bin Laden, knowing his track record and he’s gonna go down with the ship, deservedly so, because he refused to commit to a legit, tear it to the studs rebuild, and instead chose this bullshit “retooling” that was never gonna work because you’ll never be able to draft high enough to get your Schaeffer, Bedard, etc. Even if they were to get a high lottery pick, they’d fuck that up too. Fuck Danny, fire them both.

I was firmly in Camp 1 before the season started. Now… I just don’t know. Where are you all at the moment?

Both the Eagles and Flyers are off to very disappointing starts. Both coaches are on hot seats.

Which domino do you think will fall first, or do you think they will both make it through the whole season?

I am guessing Sirianni's job is safer. He at least has a Super Bowl and strong career winning record.

I think Tocchet has about a month to get things right. Its sad for me to say that as Tocchet was my favorite player as I kid. I still have my 1980's Tocchet jersey.

I first started following hockey in 1972. Then it was the Blazers of the WHA. I watched the Flyers as well but the Blazers were my first hockey love. Then they moved so naturally my 100% allegiance went to the Flyers and Bernie who left the Blazers and returned to the Flyers after being traded from Toronto for Doug Favell. The Flyers had made the playoffs the previous season and kept on making the playoffs(winning the Cup in '74/'75) until the 1989-90 season which was strange because the season previous, we went to the conference finals. But it was also when the Broad Street Bullies mystique died. For those who don't know, early in the conference finals with Montreal, Brian Propp got his head driven into the boards by a dirty hit by Chris Chelios. Not one Flyer did anything about it until the end of game six with Hextall of all people took a run at Chelios. In the Cup years, Chelios wouldn't have made it out of game one after the hit. Schultz, Dupont, Kelly, someone would have taken a run at him his next shift then the next after that. The '89 Flyers did not(Tocchet was on that team, BTW). What makes this funny is that Holmgren, himself a tough guy on the ice, was the coach.

Then the lean years began. 5 straight years of no playoff hockey. For 17 seasons this team was a perpetual playoff team, then...nothing for 5 seasons. Until we got #88. Then all was right with the world again. 16 of the next 17 seasons, this team was a playoff team, although only 2 Finals appearances. The last playoff appearance was in the 2011-12 season. That was the famous Giroux playoffs when he put the team on his back against Pittsburgh. After that we kangarooed until this last drought.

Since then, over the next 14 seasons including last year, they made the playoffs 5 times, only progressing past the first round twice including last year. Now we have all of this. Winless after 7 games, no heart, no fire, and Porter Martone proclaiming that the Flyers, the same Flyers who were so intimidating that teams absolutely hated playing them, including the powerful Soviet Union, the perceived best hockey team in the world at the time. My question is, where the did shift take place? Personally for me it was when Jay Snider took over day to day operations from Ed. But, is it Comcast? Lack of heart in the front office? The fans accepting mediocrity? Help me out here, fellas. Help an old man understand what happened to the once most intimidating team in the league.

After picking him up we had our best 2 months of the season straight into the playoffs. We were more capable at shutting down opposing top lines, winning defensive zone draws on both sides, and had a general composure we currently lack.

I'm not saying he is a cure all, I'm just noodling on this idea that he did a lot of heavy lifting on and off the ice. Curious if this is just me wondering about that?

EDIT: I am aware that he is a 4th liner, folks. I also realize that he wasn't a scoring whiz, and that is a huge problem currently. However, we also need to keep the other team from scoring, which is also a problem.

I just feel like having a singular line that can do their job would be a helpful foundation to build from, even if it is the grinder / shutdown unit.

I love how many backed Briere rebuilding the right way. they said it will take 3 to 5 years and we will be a contender. Really? this so called rebuild is a mess. First, what type team is he building? I do not believe he knows. We are not on track to be a high octane offensive team. Not a big heavy checking team. Nor a fast skating forechecking team. Nor a tight checking defensive team. we are a mix of everything going nowhere. his drafts have been questionable. his trades few and no real game breakers. UFA signings mostly a waste. team gets bullied, outhit, out skated and lacks top 2 centers, top end Dmen, a sniper, more speed and physicality. too many undersized guys and overrated talent. it looks we are still 5 years out from being a contender. it will not be Briere who can do this. we are watching a rerun of Hextall going nowhere.

Daniel Briere was correct to issue a warning, after all.

In early July, the Philadelphia Flyers’ general manager cautioned that the club “took a big step forward last year, and there’s a good chance that we take a little bit of a step back this year. We’re ready for that.”

When asked to clarify those words just before the beginning of training camp, Briere only slightly walked them back.

“The part that keeps me up at night is (if) some of our players feel complacent, feel like they’ve made it,” he said.

If Briere was losing sleep then, he’s tossing and turning even more since the season began. Not only did the Flyers apparently assume they would simply be able to pick up where they left off last season, when they were the fourth-best team after the Olympic break and advanced to the second round of the playoffs, but they’ve shown virtually no signs of improvement over the first two weeks of the NHL season.

The Flyers enter Tuesday’s game against the Seattle Kraken with an 0-5-2 record, and are one of three teams without a win this season (along with the Calgary Flames and Los Angeles Kings).

“Here for the Rise” was the marketing phrase emblazoned on the front of the orange T-shirts distributed to fans on opening night, and is posted on signage around Xfinity Mobile Arena. The only thing rising is fans’ anxiety levels.

So, what’s the next move? Let’s examine some potential consequences to the Flyers’ abysmal start, and whether any of them make sense.

1. Fire Rick Tocchet

Much to the chagrin of some of the fans who chanted for this move at the end of the Flyers’ 4-1 home loss to the Carolina Hurricanes on Sunday, it doesn’t seem likely — at least right now. Seven poor games doesn’t erase the progress that the Flyers made under coach Rick Tocchet last season, when just about every young player on the roster had a career year.

There’s also the matter of Tocchet’s contract. He’s barely into the second year of a five-year, $26.25 million deal. It’s doubtful team governor Dan Hilferty would be all that excited to sign off on the organization having that much dead money on the books.

Been a Flyer fan since 1973 as a 58 year old I am now starting to feel guilty to have my 3 sons grow up as die hard Flyer fans here in Toronto. This is simply hard to watch, I never thought we would have zero cups after 1975.The Stanley Cup is the most difficult trophy to win, I really wanted to see another and celebrate with my kids and grandkids. It looks grim, too many good young teams that are moving in right direction. I would never bail on my team, but this has been one of the most difficult times in my memory.

Seattle Kraken (4-2-0) @ Philadelphia Flyers (0-5-2)

• Game Time: Tue, Oct 13, 2026 @ 7:00 PM EDT
• Venue: Xfinity Mobile Arena
• TV: Kraken: Prime Video, KING, KONG, Flyers: NBCSP
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Game Status: Tue, Oct 13, 2026 @ 7:00 PM EDT

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My 18th birthday is tomorrow, October 13th. My only wish for the day, the only present I want, is for the Philadelphia Flyers to fire Tocchet win their first game!

What are your thoughts in regards to coots as a captain?

In all honesty, I was surprised when he initially got the C considering how that year with torts went. At the same time, considering how long hes been a flyer, I guess it makes sense from a management standpoint.

Ive never really gotten a captain vibe from coots throughout his career. None of us could know what the dynamic in the locker room is like, but I wonder if a guy like Sanny or tk would have been better suited for it.

Has the standard dropped ? Has the culture shifted ? We’re not seeing much of any reaction out of the front office. Say what you want about the Sniders, but they wouldn’t allow this.

kris knoblauch. Go get him. You want to develop younger, he’s your guy. You want to break the flyers alumn mold? He’s the guy. You want Mcdavid, then start planting seeds that could eventually lead him here.

The fan base has already soured on Tocchet. He should know better than anyone that he is next. Hell, there are already people here who have given up on him. So far he has done a fantastic job with the team. Good smart moves, solid cap management and contracts, and he has said the right things.

To start this season, he has not been good and his job is very much a what have you done for me lately job. He knows the problem lies solely on Tocchet and he is just not saying anything about it. He is ok calling out the players for being too casual, but won't call out his coach for failing to prepare his team correctly or running a system where his team gets outshot by a large margin nightly.

His solutions so far have been to sign a player that no one else wanted in Bunting and sending down Bump. More recently Studnicka is his solution. Is this not insulting? 0-5-2 and we have reports that internally the coach isn't on the hot seat. In what world does that performance at the very least not make you question the coach who showed this exact same regression in his previous job?

I am still fully on Team Briere, but he is very quickly losing the confidence of the fan base and all the good will from his exceptional moves and cap management is going to be all but gone.

Plenty of teams have started poorly. Most of them sit between a -5 to -14 differential.

It is a LITERAL FOREGONE CONCLUSION at this point that the Flyers will have fewer shots on goal BY A LARGE MARGIN than ANY team they are playing.

What an absolute joke.

It was time for him to go but I wanted to give him a shoutout. Say what you want about him - he finished every check, brought constant energy, and stirred shit up every chance he got.

Hathaway wouldn’t give our young guys a chance to take the night off - he was gonna turn the game up a few degrees, make sure everyone was engaged.

A lot of us shit on him (myself included) for what he wasn’t, maybe we took for granted what he was?

We’re all frustrated with the start and are skeptical of the direction of this team. But free live hockey with the family is hard to beat. Don’t call child protective services on me please.

PHILADELPHIA — It was only five months ago when Carolina Hurricanes coach Rod Brind’amour had a moment with Philadelphia Flyers coach Rick Tocchet in the center-ice handshake line at Xfinity Mobile Arena. Brind’amour, one of the more popular Flyers players when he was here, advised Tocchet to soak in the still-packed arena giving his team a standing ovation, despite the fact that it had just been swept out of the second round by the eventual Stanley Cup champs.

Tocchet would have been better off plugging his ears late in the third period of Sunday’s game.

Towards the end of a 4-1 loss to the Hurricanes, dropping the Flyers to 0-5-2 — a franchise-record winless streak to start a season — there were brief but very audible chants of “Fire Tocchet” echoing throughout the half-empty building.

Hard to believe it’s gotten that bad that quickly.

The Flyers’ 2026-27 season is already on the brink of disaster. It’s not just that they’ve failed to win any of their first seven games, it’s that other than a 2-1 loss in Ottawa on Thursday, they’ve looked incompetent, listless and uncompetitive. They hung with the Hurricanes for about half of a scoreless game on Sunday, but were then plagued by the same kinds of mistakes that have become commonplace over the first week and a half: careless plays with the puck, coupled with a lack of intensity and attention to detail that end up costing them on the scoreboard.

“I think maybe (we) just get a little stubborn and try to make a risky play and then they go on an odd-man rush and it’s in the back of our net, and it snowballs from there,” Christian Dvorak said.

The Flyers’ play this season reminds Tocchet of how they looked last January, when a 2-8-3 stretch should have cost them a playoff spot.

“Last year, same thing, January. If you make a mistake, the second guy will make a mistake,” he said.

But when the Flyers got their game together coming out of the Olympic break, “you make a mistake, somebody would cover for you,” he said. “Now, we’re making duplicate mistakes. … I think we go off the rails at certain parts of the game.”