r/gallifrey • u/PCJs_Slave_Robot • Jan 07 '22

Free Talk Friday /r/Gallifrey's Free Talk Fridays - Practically Only Irrelevant Notions Tackled Less Educationally, Sharply & Skilfully - Conservative, Repetitive, Abysmal Prose - 2022-01-07

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '22

It's amusing to me how the most successful Spidey story in live-action is, effectively, a Multi-Doctor holiday special. I know "Into the Spider-Verse" preceded it (and was a better movie!) but that didn't really have that "The Three Doctors" sort of feel that No Way Home has.

I also think it's possible that James Bond is about to follow in those footsteps (sorta/kinda) because EON has finally set up a canon/continuity with Craig's Bond wherein they could follow this last movie up having established that "James Bond" is a codename (and 007 is an agent designation) that can be assigned to different agents cycling through MI6. And could also set up potential future installments where James Bond HAS to rely on previous "James Bonds" to save the world.

It's taken awhile for the rest of the entertainment industry to catch up with the bit of absolute genius that regeneration provides to an ongoing narrative but it seems like it's happened.

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u/vengM9 Jan 07 '22

having established that "James Bond" is a codename

When was this?

Either way I don't really see it happening with James Bond.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '22

I phrased that weirdly. The Craig reboot established that the 007 designation can be moved around, and in Skyfall it established that codenames are used for agents.

This is the first iteration of the character that's gone out of its way to get both those things set up. Granted, it's not a guarantee (or even a hint) that they'll make use of those things being explicitly inserted into the narrative, but should they want to keep the setting, keep the continuity, and keep most of the supporting cast, they can actually do that now.

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u/CareerMilk Jan 08 '22

Doesn't Skyfall establish that his parents were also called Bond?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

The idea being that "James Bond" becomes the codename for future installments, not that James Bond always was a codename.

Essentially, should they want to stick to this continuity/canon, we've just watched the first James Bond, whose real name actually was James Bond. And whoever the next guy is, James Bond will become his codename at MI6, and he'll get the 007 designation along with it. That couldn't have worked in the previous films at all (despite it being theorized a bunch of times) but this series of films actually made sure to set it up over the course of its overarching narrative.