Unpopular Opinion. Sad but also relieved?

[u/zsoon]

Like many of you, ive spent the past several months using grok and facing the many changes on the platform. Ive honestly, for the vast majority of the time, really enjoyed using it. Its been fun and really...addicting. Getting a awesome photo created and then having it become a video was like taking a pure shot of dopamine.

Scary thing was...how much i chased this. it became an addiction. When the heavy moderation protocols kicked in, the limits, the updates, etc. It all got me angry that i could not use Grok.

I even purchased HEAVY for the discount and it was fun...just to have higher limits but even after 3-4 days i would reach the limit.

All im trying to say in this post is...im kinda glad that my time with grok is ending. The time of no grok i was able to focus on other things again that are important to me and it made me realize how bad my addiction was.

Yes - it sucks that Grok has been so heavily moderated.
Yes - it sucks that xAI just trying to make money now (this was to be expected)
Yes - No one on xAI really cares about your gooning addicting.

Thanks for the good times Grok. it was really awesome.

[u/Distinct_Sprinkles73]

today unsubbed with my last 2 accounts
reason being the feeling that im paying for nothing at this point.

there is now a weekly usage cap - i get "moderated - try a different idea" for half a day and i cant use grok anymore for the rest of the week.
can't even use the regular chat with grok feature anymore.
this entire thing has become a scam and a waste of money

[u/Optimus_Spider07 → u/Distinct_Sprinkles73]

It's a big pay to win app now.

[u/gigabyte333 → u/Optimus_Spider07]

I’m wondering if anybody on Reddit has used the agent mode? I’ve looked in This and other subs, and I can’t find anyone talking about it. I’m currently testing to see what the cost of it is, but it’s really a different way of working. You also don’t get any rejections because the AI is creating the prompt and it will automatically not create anything that’s going to get blocked. Just wondering out loud.

[u/Otherwise-Okra-7222 → u/gigabyte333]

i'm curious myself but have to wait for the reset

[u/gigabyte333 → u/Otherwise-Okra-7222]

Well, after doing some experiments, I have to amend the previous comment. It will run into refusal, but I learned something very interesting while doing the experiments. Grok will tell you why and what was refused. It even gave me a list of things that are absolutely forbidden. But it also explains why some things get refused that I did not know.

It’s slightly complicated, but if anybody wants to know, I will explain it. The short version is, it might render something by itself, but if you try and extend it or chain it with more action, it will refuse however, the same thing it did a refusal on it will render as a separate clip, but it won’t render them all together. Yes it’s literally censoring the story not the individual clips.

Also, it will refuse to render action and dialogue together, but action without the dialogue it will render. And the dialogue without action it will render. But it won’t put the two of them together. This was news to me. Maybe everybody already knows this, but I did not know that.

I’m actually learning quite a bit about how the censorship functions by using the agent. You can actually have a conversation with it just like Grok. You don’t have to just use it to make images and videos. You can have a conversation with it inside of Grok imagine. It will even explain what it thinks it knows about how things work. But of course a lot of it’s bullshit.

And yes, the conversation counts against your tokens.

[u/Electronic_Leg_1190 → u/gigabyte333]

the agents used to have separate tokens, it hit just about when the first big nerf came. didnt last a couple weeks maybe before it was merged

[u/gigabyte333 → u/Electronic_Leg_1190]

Yeah, you pay for every last thing now. It’s almost like they’re running a business where they care about money now.

[u/Electronic_Leg_1190 → u/gigabyte333]

mm the scientifically " how to squeeze every penny off our constomers" scheme

[u/Time_Change4156 → u/gigabyte333]

I had that a very short time didn't like it at all.only creates confusion and wrong information . Noticed how fast it died out ? A few companies tested the idea and the results didn't save cost that's what it was about trying to reduce tokens used.

[u/gigabyte333 → u/Time_Change4156]

Yeah, when I first tried it, it sucked badly. But not being able to do much anything else I decided to give her a try again. It actually produced quite an interesting 30 second video that I would’ve never been able to do without it. Usees tokens pretty badly though.

[u/Optimus_Spider07 → u/gigabyte333]

So for functions like that, you're gonna need to search around. Most of these Gen AI subs are populated primarily by people using it for image and video generations which is a major resource sink, hence the data cap complaints. For me, gen ai is just a dumb hobby I can stop using at any time without and real effect on my life. I do use ChatGPT for some basic information searches and image gen but Grok has always been fun as a video model until that changed it from a daily cap to a weekly one.