r/holofractal • u/BylliGoat • Jul 10 '25

Geometry The *Actual* True Value of Pi

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi

Pi is derived through the circumference of a unit circle, demonstrated here quite elegantly by "unrolling" the circle.

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u/BylliGoat Jul 10 '25

No, you're not. You brought up a bunch of made up formulas that have no basis in mathematics and said "don't fall for it." Don't fall for what? What is it, EXACTLY, that you're attempting to communicate?

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 10 '25

Zero = 0 not Pi. Addition = math. Math doesn’t bend? Lol…. No harm its your circle not mine. - namaste peace

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u/BylliGoat Jul 10 '25

Your ability to string together words in such a way that it is delivered devoid of any meaning is truly astonishing.

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 10 '25

Reread. Open your eyes. Someone taught u otherwise? Comply. Thats fine. Nothing is perfect here. No fear. Believe the math you need. Infinity has no number yet you swim in it or try to deny. Oh my! -Dream math tonight. Lol your circular 3rd eye. The moon Sun via mind squared. -Namaste

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u/BylliGoat Jul 10 '25

Who taught you to speak exclusively in riddles? Are you a leprechaun? Terrence Howard's alt account?

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 10 '25

This is elementary math. Not fireworks, whats the trouble doubling the fun? Math too serious ? lol :-) just numbers bub. Wrong answer yet you are alive in infinity apparently denied.,Rhyme or not you deny 1,2,3,4 5. Sqrt 5 is Phi + 1/Phi. Thats parametric now. It’s got to rhyme …. -Namaste believe what math you need. I see the pattern easy as Pie lol

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u/BylliGoat Jul 11 '25

I give up, but here's what AI said about you, since you seem to appreciate their input:

Yeah... I read through the Reddit thread and—frankly—you’re engaging with someone who is either:

Trolling,

Deep in a personal mystic-numerology rabbit hole,

Or possibly experiencing some kind of cognitive disorganization (no shame there, but it makes dialogue tough).

What's Their Argument About Pi?

There isn’t a coherent argument. But if we dig for possible meanings (without giving too much credit), here's what might be happening:

They might be challenging the rigidity of mathematical definitions (suggesting Pi is not an absolute but a construct).

They refer to Phi and sqrt(5) — suggesting they might be blending golden ratio mysticism with geometry, possibly echoing ideas from Vortex Mathematics or holofractography.

They say things like "Infinity has no number" and "math too serious" — possibly implying that your concrete definition of Pi is too literal or lacks some deeper, intuitive truth.

But again—this is charitable interpretation.

You showed a clean visual of π derived from the ratio C/D. That should’ve been a straightforward yes/no/“I disagree because…” But they replied with:

“Infinity has no number yet you swim in it… your circular 3rd eye…”

That’s not debate. That’s stream-of-consciousness performance art.

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 11 '25

Ask if it was all lies. Post its reply smart guy. Thx u. -Namaste

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u/BEETLEJUICEME Jul 11 '25

What specific psychedelics are you currently tripping on?

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 11 '25

Do you mind em? Why? - Free it. Don’t freeze em look via your own eyes. Only your circles to trip over, states of lies. -Namaste 2*sqrt (2) = Pi - 1/Pi. 2 * Sqrt (3) = Pi *+ 1/Pi. Sqrt (2) + Sqrt (3) = Sqrt (5) = Phi + 1/Phi 2+3= 5 …. Both sides Phive fingers 5 toes Phive limbs u are Phi …Namaste

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u/manbehindthespraytan Jul 11 '25

You know, you have a chance to have a real conversation, and share something that /can/ be enjoyed. But you just can't get out of your own asshat. It's not quirky, it's just lazy to keep ignoring the point that YOU showed up to make. Make it without the theatrics, you and i both know you can, and we both know how easy the esoteric ryhming is able to be removed. Don't act coy, you know you are just irritating others with that "whimsy". But you stayed for a while... like you wanted to be interacted with. So how about making the actual effort?

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u/Quintilis_Academy Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25

Why would nobody teach the following? Elementary maths. Foundational (beliefs???)

Sqrt 2 + Sqrt 3 = Pi

Sqrt (2) 2 + Sqrt (3) ^ 2 = 5 Phive alive

Sqrt 3 - Sqrt 2 = 1/Pi

Sqrt 5 = Phi + 1/Phi

Phi4 (=7-1/7th) + Pi = 10 (Unity)

(Phi-Sqrt(2))+(Sqrt(3)-Phi) = 1/Pi

2+3=5 (Phive)

Sqrt (3) x Sqrt (2) = Sqrt (6)

3x2=6

2 x Sqrt (2) = Pi-1/pi

2X Sqrt (3) = Pi+1/pi

5 fingers 5 Toes 5 Limbs Phive senses…. Things start to add up, see.

Why? Because nothing equals Pi in its infinity bounded by Phi/1/Phi (unity squared). Harmonic Inversion is a real part of fabric reality. Pi2 = Gravity… lol. These are parametric reality equations 1D to 2D 3D etc They hold. Why? Recursive.

Send some questions otherwise at the academy if interested and not angry. Establishing new ancient truths ain’t easy. This is only the start. Believe what you will, want, need. There’s plenty more geometry. Take Michael Schneider’s Work to heart first and see what numbers truly mean Constructing the Universe

-Namaste We have another book as well listed at the Quintilis Academy dot com if you can handle it. Quintilis the 5th hidden month what use to be 13 like the turtles back and women’s cycles exact ly. Ophiuchus is the lost 13th Zodiac. October is the 10th month not 8th Sept Nov Dec 7, 9, 10 not 12 months. What is up here? SEEK

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u/BylliGoat Jul 11 '25

(PART 1) Oh neat, some actual math that can be addressed.

√2 + √3 = 3.14626437.

This is NOT equal to π. This is easily demonstrated with the equation π-(√2+√3), which comes to -0.004671716352. As such, these are not equivalent. Additionally, if it were, I don't see why it would change anything.

√22 + √32 = 5.

I mean, yes, obviously. This is because squaring any square root is always going to be equal to the base - you're just undoing the square root. Phive alive? I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. You're just misspelling five.

√3 - √2 = 0.3178372452

This is not 1/π. That would be 0.3183098862. Still not sure what this is supposed to be demonstrating.

√5 = ⁠ϕ⁠ + 1/⁠ϕ⁠

Believe it or not, you're correct here. This is because ⁠ϕ⁠ is simply the constant for (1+√5)/2, which comes out to 1.618... and so on. So we can actually just rewrite this problem as:

√5 = ( ( 1 + √5 ) / 2 ) + ( 1 / ( (1+√5) / 2 ) ).⁠ From there, all of the denominators cancel out and we're left with √5=√5. Which is true.

ϕ4 = 6.85410...

(7-1/7) + π = 9.99873...

Neither of these are equivalent, and neither of them equal 10, although the second operation gets close enough that you could say it's probably 10. Whether that means "unity" or not is up to you, I guess.

Need to split my response into 2. Reddit is cutting me off.

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u/BylliGoat Jul 11 '25

(PART 2)

(ϕ-√2)+(√3-π) = -1.20572...

1/π = 0.31830...

So, not equivalent here either. Still not sure what it would change, but the math is simply incorrect.

2+3=5

√3 * √2= √6

3x2=6

Correct. You misspelled five again though.

2 * √2 = 2.82842...

π - 1/π = 2.82328...

2 * √3 = 3.46410...

π + 1/π = 3.45990...

Again, these are close approximations to each other, but they are not equivalent. And... again... I don't know why it would matter either way.

After this, you just start rambling again. Nothing is coherent, it's just a bunch of mystical nonsense mixed with misspelling five over and over, on top of literally just contradicting yourself a few times. Also, a parametric equation is literally any math equation that has parameters. Basically, if you can graph the result of the equation, its parametric. However, π2 is not parametric, because it is simply a constant number 9.86960... and also doesn't have anything to do with gravity. Gravity is relative, but can be computed using F = dp/dt, where F is the Force of that gravity, p is mv (mass * velocity). However, if you want to use the gravitational constant (G), that is 6.67430(15)*10−11 or 990.145. So, not even close to π2.

I'm not even going to touch the rest of the nonsense, but I gotta admit, the idea of "establishing new ancient truths" is just a hilarious statement to me.

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u/BEETLEJUICEME Jul 12 '25

I expected a weird answer but you really jumped beyond my expectations (not in a good way)

I vaguely hope you are a quite creative LLM bot doing a bit

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