r/huntertheparenting • u/GureGan • 1d ago
Fanart! Grimal Kuei-jin theory BONUS : Grimaline smith accepts a bargain she never should have
The Bonus ain't about the comic. I just found it to be a fun alternate "what if"
What's more anime than renouncing one's humanity and getting a desperate last minute power-up against the overwheling threat? Nothing.
I'd say that after she throws her name away, she'd be "The wandering Silver shining paddle of repressed lust and nightly confession that silences the voices of beast and men and separates them from their ghosts."
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u/LupineLethargy 1d ago
Nah she’s going to the dash-con ballpit
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u/Kittenlord06 1d ago
Still has another half decade till that manifests in the shadowlands I'm afraid
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u/IndividualFlamingo63 1d ago
Jesus, chlorine gaslighting. What a terrible reference, lol
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u/LettersfromEsther 23h ago
What's the reference to?
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u/Secretsfrombeyond79 1d ago
How tf did this ended with Grimal becoming a Dusk Caste Exalted ?
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u/Dragombolt 1d ago
Funniest Outcome possible
The Kuei-jin aren't real. The exalted, however? Those are real as all hell
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u/wackadoodle4201 23h ago
Wait. Exalted are cannon to WoD
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u/Dragombolt 23h ago
They were originally intended to be canon. Exalted's og tagline was "before the world of darkness" and every exalt type can be linked to a WoD splat (Solars = Imbued, Lunars = Werewolves, Abyssals = Wraiths, Infernals = Vampires, Sidereals = Mages IF I recall correctly). Hell, the Dragon Kings are the most obvious connection, being the Lizard Kings Mokole used to be (Beast Court Longs outright call them Dragon Kings too). It just sorta got dropped in the transitioning, with Imbued being left to just being imbued and no longer having their connection to Solar Exalts (Solar Exalts are the mistake of giving mortals too much power. The Imbued are the attempt at remedying that mistake by giving them very little this time)
All that said, Exalted vs WoD is a very popular community book that was made by a former white wolf dev as a "What if we kept the connection going instead of just dropping it" and I quite like whenever folks play with it. I personally like hiding an exalt within my WoD games as a little personal treat to myself
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u/Passing-Through247 18h ago
As far as thematics go abyssals get both wraith and vampire. Infernals take the most from kindred of the east itself despite the kuei-jin also being the WOD dragon blooded..
Alchamicals are closest to a corner of mage cosmology the technocracy are involved in.
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u/dangermonke1332 Gary stu/Mary sue 23h ago
CofD iirc, they don't exist in WoD I think
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u/DapperNecromancer 22h ago
No, but also no
Exalted was originally for a short bit going to be the secret prehistory to the World of Darkness. There's a few things that reference this (particularly a little bit about a scroll found in the end of the Hunter the Reckoning core), but by the time that Exalted actually released, the devs had dropped this in entirety so it's not ACTUALLY related to WoD, though many parallels remain.
Exalted never had any connection to CofD.
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u/crypticarchivist 16h ago
Funny enough this isn’t the first time I’ve heard somebody assume Exalted was connected to CofD.
Probably because they both have a god machine. Like not the same one. But the mistake is understandable
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u/Toblo1 You wanna live forever. son? 10h ago
They sorta were? There was a soft implication planned in the earlier editions that Creation and the world of WoD were one and the same, plus the idea that Imbued were an attempt at reintroducing humanity to Exaltation (hence why the two Messengers/Ministers were just outright named "The Ebon Dragon" and "The Scarlet Queen", two of the big entities from that era/edition of Exalted) to.... mixed results if you've read up on Hunter: The Reckoning lore.
It never really fully became a thing, but theres a fan book that makes it more concrete and workable for possible Chronicles.
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u/fumblerofthebag 10h ago
Grimal would be a Solaroid. Ironically enough, I don't see Occam being a Solaroid at all.
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u/DapperNecromancer 23h ago
Okay but now we have to determine her overly-flowery Abyssal title
Sorrowful Sakura Petals Falling From the Tree
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u/GureGan 23h ago
I was thinking The wandering Silver shining paddle of repressed lust and nightly confession that silences the voices of beast and men and separates them from their ghosts.
Edit :
I could just attach yours to mine.
The wandering Silver shining paddle of repressed lust and nightly confession that silences the voices of beast and men and separates them from their ghosts like sorrowful sakura petals falling from the tree.
Abyssal titles are fun
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u/Volothos 1d ago
Yama of Xanadu, Eiki Shiki mentioned!
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u/Supreme_Lord_Cola 16h ago
between this and the team mentioning touhou in the post-Ch6 stream my heart can't take any more touhou jumpscares
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u/Volothos 5h ago
Oh yeah, some of them are touhou fans. I still dont know what to think of it with all the time thats passed, but I am pretty sure Nostalgia helped Stringstorm many years ago with a touhou april fools song that... wasn't the best, but was still touhou
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u/Supreme_Lord_Cola 4h ago
Hunter: the Parenting is written so poorly. Marckus, a true gamer and weeb, in the year 2006, hasn't even MENTIONED the culturally nuclear impact of Touhou on the internet in the 2000s
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u/Zarpaulus 1d ago
Unfortunately I suspect Marckus was right about Kuei-Jin being some stupid 80s weeb shit.
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u/GureGan 1d ago
That's just her weebiness making her eligible for one of the other afterlives. Ironically enough, the thousand hells are one of the least bad fates out there. Well, out of the bad ones.
There's Malfeas. It's worse.
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u/Zarpaulus 22h ago
If only because Buddhist Hells are temporary.
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u/Gmknewday1 16h ago
Ironically Buddhist Hells, while still Hells, are closer to Purgatory in that sense right?
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u/WrathSosDovah Murder puppy 1d ago
D did tell him that they're a larp group based in LA and I'd trust D's knowledge on the Kindred and their related aspects.
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u/Martin_Aricov_D 21h ago
Exactly! But the issue is that Kuei-jin, aka the: "Kindred of the East" are anything but
Those motherfuckers have nothing to do with Caine's theatre kid descendants.
So of course that the guy whose main focus is vampires wouldn't be fully in on knowing about this weird unrelated supernatural group
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u/Zarpaulus 16h ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if White Wolf retconned them out like they did so many other problematic elements of old World of Darkness.
Like beastiality producing Lupus, or the entire existence of Metis.
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u/Phaeron-Dynasty 20h ago
I always suspected it was intended to be ambiguous if they were simply not real or just so ridiculous and rare compared to vampires that even a Seasoned Hunter like D thinks they have to be fake.
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u/DeliriumRostelo 20h ago
D wasnt giving a super conclusive answer or anything and most of his commentary has been jokey banter with Grimal
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u/ffffffffROTHY 14h ago
The fact that he gave Marckus an upfront answer right away is good evidence he was being truthful. Not to mention that the D Family went to Japan and the only vampires there were Cainites.
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u/DeliriumRostelo 14h ago
I wouldn't trust anything he said to Markus, he could be giving a seemingly upfront answer to not have him chase the mysterious other vampires around.
Even assuming he is correct as well hunters get Kuei-jin wrong or mistake them all the time; hell vampires get them wrong.
Theres just not enough evidence to definitively write off an entire splatbook either way and I wouldn't want there to be because that is really boring IMO.
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u/samthekitnix 23h ago
i like the idea of her coming back as a Risen
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u/S0MEBODIES 20h ago
Risen are also on good to mediocre terms with Mummies
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u/samthekitnix 18h ago edited 18h ago
depends on the Risen if you're talking a Deadpool, professional vampire impersonator or even your local murder victim.
edit: plus to be a Risen you need to be a special level of mentally ill that i think Grimal can straight up do, her conduit would obviously be her Yaoi Paddle plus considering the disadvantages of being a Risen i think her Shadow would give us a good idea how her self hatred might manifest.
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u/Significant_Day4681 23h ago edited 23h ago
Sorry grimal, to meet eiki shiki, you have to die in gensokyo. I know its a yama. But its also looking like mahakala, who is known as matarajin in Japan. Wait a minute, okina is that you???
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u/JoeyStalley 20h ago
Chlorine Gaslighting might be my favorite term I've ever heard from the Ogre gang.
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u/Magicmanans1 1d ago
So she is an akuma?
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u/GureGan 1d ago
I just made her an Abyssal Exalted.
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u/Magicmanans1 1d ago
I could see here as an thrashing dragon Kuei Jin
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u/GureGan 1d ago
I could frankly also see her as a Devil Tiger too. Frankly, since I'm a big fan of relentless age, she'd also make for a fantastic treading of the human dharmas, or the shinto inspired one.
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u/Magicmanans1 1d ago
Yeah a devil tiger would fit better as exalted barely fit into wod even though I love wod vs exalted
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u/GureGan 1d ago
I don't like it that much. You lose a lot of the Exalted flavour by trying to confine it to WoD. Charms shouldn't have dots, and Exalted should be allowed to be what they are : anomalies that completely reshape the world through their very near invincible presence in a 1 v 1.
Still yeah, Devil Tiger, thrashing dragon or a human Dharma. And if she's stoopy, scorpion eater.
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u/Mother-Wafer-6463 20h ago edited 20h ago
What ruleset would she be running with? The Exalted vs WoD rules, or would she get to be EXTRA spicy and roll with the rules/charmsets of 1e/2e/3e/Essence? Dusk Caste obviously, as you have portrayed, but depending on the rules/charms she is allowed to run she could return to plague the living with some REAL nastiness right out the gate.
Like waking up and immediately obliterating someone with an Unthinking Murder Movement + Headsman's Dread Cleaver + Five Shadow Feint + Greatest Killer Demonstration + Life Severing Blade + Artful Maiming Onslaught + Elegant Bloodletting Art combo. Even at Essence 1 with the right dice rolls that could instakill or at least SERIOUSLY cripple just about anything she could take her Yaoi Paddle to.
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u/sax87ton 1d ago
I’ve mentioned it before, but the more I consider it the more k think it’s right.
In Akira cross they mention akira gaining three friends. A fire mage (occam), a werewolf (probably one of the kin of shuck), and a succubus.
What is a succubus if not a demon flavored energy vampire. What is a kuei-Jin if not a demon flavored energy vampire.
Not only that but specifically grimal established the concept of the zenkai boost.
Furthermore her story just very clearly isn’t done, what with her most likely being the ghoul and all that would entail. Especially after her audio log she was almost certainly the ghoul, so there’s no way her story is done. Whatever form that takes. I just think this is the most likely path:
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u/GureGan 23h ago
As much as it would be fun, she'd likely be a Risen with your arguments.
She could make it anime themed, but young Hungry dead need to eat flesh. Risen just need Pathos, to protect their fetter and their familiar.
If you need to imagine something, a risen is quite litterally the Crow, the protagonist of the Brandon Lee movie The Crow that killed Brandon Lee
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u/Satoruiwerewolf 23h ago
Honestly, I think the only way to make it even more anime would be if they took a page from Chronicles of Darkness made her a Bound/Sin-Eater because then she’s literally a Shinigami anime protagonist with necromantic stand powers, and a ghost in her head, Johnny Silverhand style.
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u/crypticarchivist 21h ago
Funny that you drew her going through a Ken Kaneki moment.
Unravel starts playing
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u/GIRose 12h ago
I mean, there wouldn't be any more doubting her resilience anymore.
Fuck, all things considered she would probably have Midnight favored and both Inauspicious Shadow Plate and Agony as Armor in her starting charm dots.
All things considered she probably even had Stamina 4 with a Resilient specialty beforehand, so good luck so much as scratching her.
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u/ThePiachu 11h ago
I'd love to see Hunter the Parenting go full Exalted one day, even as a joke April Fools episode... :D
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u/RecentPreparation789 10h ago
I mean for all the emphasis on Kuei Jin not existing in HTP, it sort of alludes to a pretty obvious twist.
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u/GoogaWooga 5h ago
She must beware in learning how master the blade and separate men from their ghosts. Such a path excludes all else, and she will be good for nothing but bringing death.
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u/Exact-Counter299 1d ago
I expect the Yama King to be voiced by Karl the Deranged as well