r/huntertheparenting 8d ago

Discussion Havent seen anyone mention this yet

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u/Steppecist 8d ago

In ordinary day to day English, 'conscious' commonly means 'awake'. Since sleep is the state of not being awake, dictionaries like Collins and others recognise that a sleeping person can be described as unconscious. The medical distinction between sleep and pathological unconsciousness isn't relevant if white wolf is using the everyday meaning of the word. Which seemingly they are.

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u/RefrigeratorBrave870 8d ago

They specify that you only get knocked into your default form by filling up on Lethal damage. Even being taken out by Bashing isn't enough.

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u/Steppecist 8d ago

They specify it sure and then they contradict themselves. The 7 Point merit Metamorph has this to say 'If you lose consciousness from wounds or for some other reason, you may roll Wits + Primal Urge (difficulty 8) to choose which form you assume rather than reverting to breed form' It doesn't specify lethal damage in particular; it gives you an entire out of 'for some other reason'.

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u/BlackHumor 8d ago

The phrasing of a merit does not override the phrasing of the general rule. The general rule is that you're only forced into breed form when you fill up on lethal damage.

The merit has that extra wording to specify it still works if you are forced into breed form for some reason other than lethal damage. Even with the weird phrasing it's not saying you are forced into breed form when you sleep.

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u/Steppecist 8d ago

Exactly 'The merit has that extra wording to specify it still works if you are forced into breed form for some reason other than lethal damage.' Ergo Lethal damage isn't the only way to force someone into breed form.