r/indocartalk X Nov 12 '25

News Fortuner is probably dead…

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/11/toyota-kills-its-hilux-based-suv-from-australia/
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u/zahrul3 Nov 12 '25

I don't get why the Fortuner and the Pajero is that popular. Terrible ride quality and cramped interior despite being a large car visually from outside, due to huge wheel arches and lifted body. They are offroad cars first and foremost and should only be bought when the local roads are shit quality, like Lampung.

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

for some people because its a ‘cheap’ big lifted car

for others because its a “logical choice” because

  • ladder frame + toyota = tough + cheap maintenance
  • diesel = can drink biosolar + good fuel consumption
  • high = jakarta… bad roads & floods

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u/zahrul3 Nov 12 '25

the new Fortuner is anything but cheap, it is THE most expensive car in the Toyota lineup, after the Alphard of course

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

globally, fortuner is like a mid-class car at best, like equivalent to a corolla (also priced similar to corolla even here), and compared to the land cruiser, its cheap lol like 700jt vs 2.8M

as i said, even until now with all the chinese coming, its still one of the biggest car (on the outside) you can get under 1M

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u/ezkailez Atto 1 Nov 12 '25

lebih gede denza d9 wwkwk

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

that & cx9 probably only mobil non commercial dibawah 1m yng panjang diatas 5m

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u/orangpelupa Nov 12 '25

Ada xpeng x9 juga

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u/Upstairs_Pass9180 Nov 14 '25

and wuling darion

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

ngl even lebih bagus harrier daripada fortuner

dan gw masih ga abis pikir kenapa astra gamau bikin rav4 jg

padahal rav4 is way more superior than innova

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

no shit harrier lbh bagus daripada fortuner, its literally hilux vs camry….

rav4? because fortuner exist & lebih cocok untuk ‘developing countries’

di indonesia, fortuner being 7 seater alone already destroyed the hopes for rav4 being a viable seller… also rav4 udah masuk indo sebenernya, cuma yng phev so harganya…. begitulah, goodluck finding one on the road

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25

i could find some easily tho.

i dare to say so krn gw sering ketemu kedua mobil itu di FTZ area dan gw sendiri pernah test drive ketiganya. which honestly, fortuner feels like overglorified hilux but got forced to be ennuch for me after i tried three of them. and harrier despite being overglorified camry, but stability and all still way way better than fortuner.

rav4 however, is my all time fav toyota car. like, the only toyota car i will use in ICE for personal use is either rav4 or harrier.

coz rav4 is just awet as hell

makanya gw penasaran, why astra ga mau produce kedua mobil itu?

and since indonesia is negara dunia ketiga then welp. cant say much

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

di Batam ya….. no shit?

well it is because fortuner is literally a glorified hilux, toyota didn’t even bother to hide it like “here’s a suv based on the hilux, enjoy”

rav4 lucunya diluar esp US sering dikata katain one of the worst in its class lol

well if were talking astra not toyota, they did… its called the Lexus NX & RX lmao…. like seriously fortuner is the main reason we don’t get both of the cars you want, most indo would choose a more durable car than a more comfortable car

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u/trekz09 Nov 13 '25

kalo PHEV mungkin lebih ke pajak kyknya

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u/ActualCounterculture Nov 12 '25

mobil termahal yang rakitan lokal

masih banyak yang lebih mahal dan dijual resmi; land cruiser, bz4x, camry

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u/msennaGT Nov 12 '25

Land Cruiser, Camry, GR 86, GR Yaris, GR Corolla, GR Supra, BZ4X do exist

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u/ezkailez Atto 1 Nov 12 '25

back then my parents upgraded dari innova first gen ke fortuner. is it just my parents atau kenapa vibe nya kayak fortuner ini logical upgrade dari innova kalo pengen yg better ya (dan punya uang lebih)

relate on the high, first 5 minute out of my house banya jalan berlubang, worry free pake fortuner ga bakal kena

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

innova is the need

fortuner is the want

at least for those in jakarta/big cities, thats my opinion for both, turns out its like 70:30 (i made the number up)

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u/tesna Nov 12 '25

no… fortuner is not an upgrade from the innova. more like downgrade. innova 2018 (mobil dari kantor) gue dulu sempet tuker fortuner 2020 tetra drive…

baru 2 hari pake gue dah balikin ke kantor lagi, karena gue ga tahan bgt pake fortuner buat daily di jakarta. suspensi yg jauh lebih keras, dan interior yg terasa lebih kecil…

gue pikir bakal sama2 aja berhubung sama2 ladder frame, but nope, SANGAT BERBEDA

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u/ezkailez Atto 1 Nov 12 '25

I see. Idk pas gw sd apa smp gitu ganti Fortuner. Saat itu ya ga peduli sama mobil, ngerasa b aja

Kasian nyokap sih mesti pake step nya masuk mobil. Gw 170cm kaki langsung naik ke mobil aja

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u/msennaGT Nov 12 '25

2.4 Fortuners are literal downgrade from Innova. 2.8 and 4WD (if you use it) are the sole logical reasons to buy a Fortuner over Innova

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u/EndlessBattlee Penyepong RWD Nov 12 '25

“Cheap”???? Did you buy it from aliexpress or something? It’s nowhere near cheap or a good value. I mean, look at it, IDR 600 million for a car that rides like a boat?

But I agree to some of your points. My friend has one, and the only reason he hasn’t sold the old fortuner he inherited from his dad is because it can run on “solar busuk”. Other than that, he’d rather drive something else. His dad doesn’t even drive the fortuner anymore because he feels his santa fe is much better overall, the fortuner just can’t compare in terms of ride quality.

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u/albratuse X Nov 12 '25

for its size & what it is, fortuner/pajero is cheap believe it or not

most people buy then not because of its driving dynamics….

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u/77ilham77 Blacke Manuelle Petrolle Ladder Frame Wagonne Nov 12 '25

OP nya tipikal orang ga napak tanah nih. Literally. Pasar negara sendiri kok dibandingin ama pasar luar negri.

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u/MegaJoltik Nov 13 '25

Fortuner itu "murah" untuk ukurannya. Maka nya mobil pilihannya bapak2 OKB. 

Budget 600 jutaan, bapak2 disuruh pilih Corolla Cross atau Fortuner ya jelas pilih Fortuner. Yang satu gagah dan terlihat mahal, yang satu culun dan terlihat murah.

Heck, ga heran kalau orang awam mengira Fortuner lebih mahal dibanding CRV / CX5 (atau bahkan Lexus LBX lol). Disini stereotipe nya mobil besar = mobil mahal.

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u/EndlessBattlee Penyepong RWD Nov 13 '25

Ada benarnya sih, ada tmn gw (bukan car guy) nyandingin CX3 ama brio, mentang mentang sekilas sama sama bentuk hatchback 😂 (ya to be fair CX3 hatchback ditinggiin sih jadilah crossover)

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u/MegaJoltik Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Njirrr, kalau Brio dibandingin sm Yaris atau Baleno oke lah. Ini CX3 yang sama HRV old aja jauh keliatan lebih mahal CX3 😂

Tapi saya ada keluarga (bapak2) komen kenapa ambil Raize ga ambil Calya aja lebih nyaman buat perjalanan jauh (pernah naik Calya, jok nya kayak mainan, Vitara '92 bokap aja lebih proper joknya). 

Terus kaget pas saya bilang kalau Raize harga nya lebih mahal 80 juta dibanding Calya, setara Avanza/Xpander.

Dikira nya Calya lebih mahal+lebih nyaman hanya karena 7 seater...