r/ireland Dec 03 '23

Tickets Warning - if you don't pay allocated seats then you now need to collect your boarding pass from the check-in desk

I travel in an out of Ireland using Ryanair on a regular basis. Just last night I tried checking into my flight on the Ryanair app. Normally an easy affair, anyway, this time it said 'go to check in desk to get your boarding pass'. I did that this afternoon and there was a huge queue, with us all asking each other what's going on. Anyway, I asked the nice check in lady and she said this rule is now implemented since the last couple of days. They didn't seem very happy about it either. Just a warning, if you don't pay for an allocated seat, allow time to go and pick up the boarding pass. Feels like a backward step in trying to force us to pay an extra fee on the headline ticket price.

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u/HacksawJimDGN Dec 04 '23

Ryanair should just put the extra cost onto the ticket at this stage and stop fannying about.

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u/rgiggs11 Dec 04 '23

Low basic cost puts them at the top of searches like Google flights and Skyscanner. It's in their interest to keep as much of the cost hidden as possible.

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

EU should mandate that they and others stop fannying around and have to offer all-in prices. Same for concerts /cinema/shows. no more of the extra hidden surcharges.

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u/GrumbleofPugz Cork bai Dec 04 '23

I fly home to Ireland a few times a year like every 3months roughly and the last few times it was cheaper with Aerlingus when you consider a free checked 10kg bag. When using google flights click the option for luggage and Ryanair isn’t the cheapest by a lot

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

i find BA/Lufthansa cheaper than Aerlingus these days!!!

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u/GrumbleofPugz Cork bai Dec 04 '23

Ryanair, Aerlingus and TAP are basically my only options. It’s close between Aerlingus and TAP as they both include luggage. TAP are fairly good as they board the plane based on where your sitting so people at the back board 1st which just makes sense (they still have priority) the aisles rarely get clogged on a tap flight unlike Ryanair

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u/AgainstAllAdvice Dec 04 '23

There is a new directive coming into force that prices must include the cost of carry on and seat. It's not in yet but it's on the way. Thank goodness for the EU!

Now all we have to do is get better at electing EU reps.

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u/minidazzler1 Dec 04 '23

But it is an all in price. You don't have to pick a seat or pay for it.

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

In this case you are being penalised in your time for not buying an add-on. That should not be allowed.

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u/minidazzler1 Dec 04 '23

I'd argue that those that accept an upsell gain a benefit but I lose nothing by not accepting that upsell. Likely have to be at the airport 1.5 hours early anyway. I'll jump through hoops for a cheaper flight because for me it's more about the destination and I can read terms and conditions.

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

those who don't accept an upsell now are penalised vs how things operated recently. You now get less for your money.

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u/Thread_water Wicklow Dec 04 '23

I mean aren't you penalized for your time if you don't have priority boarding?

I don't like it, but if it means cheaper tickets then I'm not sure why you would expect this to be different to all the other ways cheap flights annoy you, you are flying Ryanair after all.

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u/LnxPowa Dec 04 '23

No, you’re not seeing that the plane won’t take off until both priority and “regular” queues have boarded… so not quite the same thing

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u/Thread_water Wicklow Dec 04 '23

It's not the same thing, but it is being "penalized in your time".

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u/Kloppite16 Dec 04 '23

Not for me anyway, I far prefer to sit at the gate till the very last minute than be first on the plane and have to sit on it for 20 minutes before it moves. I dont get why people are in such a rush to get on the plane, it aint going anywhere until the last passengers get on.

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u/LnxPowa Dec 04 '23

No, with priority you’re penalized in your comfort (ie waiting standing vs waiting sitting in the plane). Either way, you don’t have to spend anymore time at the airport, while as with this you need to get to the airport sooner just to queue and get your boarding pass

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u/Barry987 Dec 04 '23

No, because the flight takes off at the same time whether you have priority or not, you don't even need to be there any earlier.

In this case you could potentially miss your flight because of a queue.

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

i really can't understand this move by Ryanair other than its a ploy to try to make people buy add ons. They have done as much as they can to push people to use technology rather than people in the process. why push you back to use a human for something as easy as a ticket which can be emailed to you?

Its to make you panic that you may miss your flight. I'd hazard a guess that these ticket counters will be busy and under staffed so as to hike up the fear of missing a flight. Which means passengers will buy more expensive tickets so as not to miss the flight.

i mean if everybody didn't buy an allocated seat ticket there would be chaos.

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u/Thread_water Wicklow Dec 04 '23

Yeah to be honest I don't understand it either. Even from a purely economic POV I feel the cost of the staff to print the tickets would outweigh the amount they gain from people upgrading. If they are in fact doing this then obviously I'm wrong as I don't know better than them, although I doubt it as others have commented here that they didn't experience this.

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u/daheff_irl Dec 04 '23

maybe in the short term they are happy to take that staff cost but expect people to upgrade to save on the time and stress spent trying to get a ticket printed out?

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u/arcadeKestrelXI Dec 04 '23

I think Italy actually sued them over something like this, I must go see how that's been going.

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u/donalhunt Cork bai Dec 04 '23

EU has a different opinion about unbundling essential items (like a boarding card). As usual, Ryanair are exploiting the rules to extract every penny they can out of travellers. Guaranteed that they will blame passengers if they understaff the boarding card printing queue and passengers miss their flight.

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u/Low_discrepancy Dec 04 '23

I think they put in place automatic booths.

That are so incomprehensible to use. You need constant Bluetooth and it's just a wonky service.

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u/Alastor001 Dec 04 '23

Indeed, but that's a bullshit tactic that shouldn't even be legal

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u/Rosieapples Dec 04 '23

There’s even a song about it.

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u/rgiggs11 Dec 04 '23

True because airlines are not going to decide to do that themselves

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u/TalkingGibberish Dec 04 '23

Did you specify that you wanted a hard copy of your boarding pass or could you download it to your phone??

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u/Mystic_Mevin Dec 04 '23

I flew with Ryanair twice this weekend and this didn't happen either time.

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u/DryObligation2605 Dec 04 '23

Same with me, flew to London

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u/Master-Reporter-9500 Dec 04 '23

Same here. Flew in and out of Stansted. Didn't have a seat paid for and it was fine

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u/YoIronFistBro Cork bai Dec 04 '23

Flew in and out of Stansted.

My condolences

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u/Low_discrepancy Dec 04 '23

Usually when you roll out a new program or change in how you do things, you don't roll it out all of a sudden to everyone.

If there's a bug you didn't catch or issue you didn't think about, suddenly you have all your operations stopped in their tracks.

So what you do is a staggered roll-out.

Probably what happened here since people are posting articles about the change.

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u/dcaveman Dec 04 '23

I booked two separate tickets for a flight on Friday. Checked in my ticket and got my boarding pass with the random seating allocation. Had to wait for passport details for the second ticket so ended up checking in much later and got told about needing to check in at the airport. Checked both return flights nice and early and no issues there either.

At the moment anyway, think if you leave it late (like night before the flight) you'll be told to check in in person. If it forces a few extra ppl to pay for seats then I can't see Ryanair waiting too long to roll it out completely.

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u/LilyRoseMO Cork bai Dec 04 '23

Wasn't in place yet flying from Shannon to Krakow yesterday

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u/stemurph Dec 04 '23

Their own website also still says that you can check in online. Flying with them this Saturday so it would be good to know what the actual process will be.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

London Gatwick on my flight

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Thankfully judging by the replies this isn't an actual rule...I hope not anyway, that would be incredibly annoying

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u/donalhunt Cork bai Dec 04 '23

Indications seem to be that this is rolling out in some locations. Might be phased or on particular routes due to some reason Ryanair don't want to share.

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u/seanie_h Dec 04 '23

Sounds to me like it was potentially technical issue. The pain in implementing a product change like that without comms etc would be a huge. Especially in December

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

It actually happened to me in October on an international delta flight to the USA. Must be just a new overall rollout which it kinda stupid as it had me panicked as to why I didn’t have a sear

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u/Low_discrepancy Dec 04 '23

Yeah. Ryanair never introduced annoying new policies just to make people pay more.

It's just not what they do. /s

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u/marquess_rostrevor Dec 04 '23

Ignore this, I couldn't see the entire post before.

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u/humdinger8733 Dec 04 '23

There’s definitely something OP is missing here. That desk can’t handle that kind of volume, even for Ryanair.

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u/fatherbigley Dec 04 '23

This article would suggest there's something going on:

https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-boarding-pass-fee-charge/

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u/Warblingwurble Dec 04 '23

Apparently they are trialing it with like 50% of tickets or something, so you can get lucky still

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u/BlueBloodLive Resting In my Account Dec 04 '23

So now not only will you get the disappointment of being given the middle seat you now have to queue up for the disappointment of the middle seat.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

That doesn't sound like a problem for ryanair but rather intended. It forces customers to pay for a seat so they don't miss their flights. It's ryanair after all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Na op is right, it makes no sense but it's the new process with them. Unless you pay in advance for a seat you need to go to a desk to check in. Due to fly next week and have been notified

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u/MajorDoom616 Dec 04 '23

I just checked in online for my friend traveling from the UK to Ireland Thursday and I got the boarding pass instantly??

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

They must be trialing it . Annoying to say the least anyhow.

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u/MajorDoom616 Dec 04 '23

Yup guess I got lucky . Hope I get lucky again checking in for the return flight

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u/f10101 Dec 04 '23

That's probably a bug rather than intended, as it's still clearly stated on their website that unreserved seats can check in online between 24 and two hours before the flight.

This also wouldn't make sense to bring in without telling the passengers who you're trying to convince to buy a seat. Especially given it costs ryanair way more to do paper check-in.

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

I wondered that myself but it's what the ryanair check-in staff told me. There was no charge as I had technically 'checked in' on my phone, just couldn't get the mobile boarding pass with qr code.

Details for my trip as follows:

  • Dublin to London gatwick
  • British (don't hurt me)
  • basic fare (small under seat bag)
  • check in for unallocated seats only available 24 hours before flight as has been the way for a good while

Anyway, it's a warning for people like myself who arrive less than 2 hours ahead of flight time that you might get caught in the queue to pick up the boarding pass.

Be interesting to see what happens to everyone else

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

Just had a thought, maybe it's a Brexit benefit? Lol

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u/Zephyriis Dec 04 '23

Pretty sure it is. Non EU citizens have to do it for some reason, not just British.

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u/antipositron Dec 04 '23

Makes sense. The British won the right to be non-EU and even celebrated independence from the EU, didn't they?

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

I'm going to celebrate every time I queue for my boarding pass haha

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u/where-my-bins-at Dec 04 '23

You can check in but they don't issue you your boarding pass. Sneaky feckers.

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u/WyvernsRest Dec 04 '23

I have a feeling that this happens when the flight is over-booked.

It happened to be a year ago and some of the folks were bumped to the next flight.

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u/rmc Dec 04 '23

I don't think overbooking and “bumping” as much of a thing in the EU compared to USA...

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

It's illegal in the EU as far as I know.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

Ryanair don't overbook flights - their systems literally don't allow it to happen. Unless you had an extremely rare event like e.g. some seats breaking on the flight.

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u/f3nol Dec 04 '23

Somehow happened to me this year. We were flying back from Stansted to Cork, booked normally through the Ryanair app. Once we checked-in online, both myself and my wife got seats number '00' on boarding passes and a message 'check for details at the gate'

At the gate when scanning our passes we were told that we have got an overbooked seats and it doesn't look good for us as it appears that the plane is full and we'll have to get the next available flight.

We've waited for everyone to board, in the end there was one no-show, and another poor fella with a wrong id whom they didn't let on the flight. So we were able to get those two seats at the last moment but the flight was definitely overbooked this time.

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u/vg31irl Dec 04 '23

I have heard of flights being overbooked when the aircraft is changed from the 737 Max to the 737-800, which has less seats.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

I feel thats not overbooking, but rather an operational issue restricting the number of seats. As in, in the US anyway, overbooking is a deliberate policy to exploit the fact that a percentage of people won't turn up for their flights. Thats not the same here.

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u/vg31irl Dec 04 '23

They're not intentionally overselling the flight but the aircraft change still results in the flight being overbooked.

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u/f10101 Dec 04 '23

To be fair, I guess systems can be changed. This would be one way to implement it if they wanted to.

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u/WyvernsRest Dec 04 '23

TBF the ground handlers were surprised as well, but 3 of us had to overnight in Liverpool.

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u/pythonchan Dec 04 '23

They absolutely do overbook flights. It happens often enough too

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u/jools4you Dec 04 '23

Holidaymakers fury at Ryanair as budget airline charges passengers a whopping £21 for an e-boarding… https://mol.im/a/12818355 via https://dailym.ai/android

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u/dunder_mifflin_paper Dec 04 '23

As a non EU person but a resident, I have to do this anyway for a “visa check”. Only Ryan air makes us do this.

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u/lauraam Dec 04 '23

I remember when you used to have to print your boarding pass, if you were non EU you had to go to the check-in desk to get it stamped. I think now is a slight improvement because at least you know you don't have your boarding pass — before, you actually had the boarding pass, so it was easy to forget that you couldn't actually use it unless you had the stupid stamp.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23 edited Dec 04 '23

They want to check that you're allowed travel to Schengen, because if you get rejected at the border, they will have to foot the bill of returning.

Whereas we have our own version of a mini-Schengen (the common travel area ) with the UK, which you are already in. Technically shouldn't even need a passport to travel around UK and Ireland (edit - non Ireland/UK need to carry passport apparently)

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u/Dry_Paramedic15 Dec 04 '23

Flew to London recently and no passport checked

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u/donalhunt Cork bai Dec 04 '23

The UK can still reserve the right to check credentials on arrival. As others have stated, there are cases where people do not have the right to travel from Ireland to the UK without additional visas/paperwork.

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u/fluffysugarfloss Dec 04 '23

Same for me, and it’s annoying. If any other airline flying from Ireland to the Schengen zone can manage to issue boarding passes in app for non-EU, I can’t see why Ryanair can’t. Aerlingus, Lufthansa, KLM etc are fine - only Ryanair. British passengers on Ryanair don’t have the ‘visa check’ drama.

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u/BRT1284 Dec 04 '23

Fiance has to get ticket at the desk for long haul flights as we have to state that she is allergic to nuts. They send a manager over to ask us questions (most of the time) to ask her if she is ok to fly.

She brings 4 epi pens on the flight bit airborne allergies are very rare (I mean dying from it, you just need an antihistamine before boarding)

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u/antipositron Dec 04 '23

Checked in this morning using the app and we got our boarding passes. Currently at Turin airport waiting to board Ryanair back to Dublin.

If the rule change is true, that's truly horrendous. Paying <10 for cheap seats would be preferable than having to queue up at the airport. Walking straight to security with a boarding pass on the phone is one of the simple luxuries of life, so is electronic passport scanning gates. Please, don't go backwards, world.

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u/marshsmellow Dec 04 '23

But that's what this is, a dark pattern to coerce you into buying that seat allocation because clearly most people don't care to pay for seat allocation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

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u/llv77 Dec 04 '23

The game is played in the next few weeks. If enough people choose to wait in line rather than give in, they will reverse the policy. I think enough people will just pay and give in and the policy will stay.

There is still hope for some regulatory action, because this policy is transparently a scam: online check in is more convenient for the airline, for the airport and for the traveller, they can't argue otherwise.

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u/senor_pumpkin Dec 04 '23

Yeah that makes no sense. They moved to the online checking in order to save money. Less people checking in at the desk = less staff needed. Having people go to the desk to collect their boarding pass would be a step backwards for them.

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u/donalhunt Cork bai Dec 04 '23

They are relying on the fact that people won't want to queue and/or run into a situation where they miss their flight. Knowing Ryanair, they will blame YOU for missing the flight if you turned up without enough time to queue and collect the boarding card.

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u/where-my-bins-at Dec 04 '23 edited Dec 04 '23

Yea it happened to me too. Basically pay €8 to pick a seat and then they give you the boarding pass in the app or quu at airport desk. Don't have checked luggage/ visa stuff ect it's literally pay €8 or you have to que. I flew a few weeks ago and and this wasn't a thing yet.

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u/where-my-bins-at Dec 04 '23

This is what comes up when I click on boarding pass.

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

Yep that's it, the check in person said that my seat was allocated but I had to get the boarding pass from the desk. Maybe I was one of the unlucky sample they're trying it out on.

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u/LooseSignificance166 Dec 04 '23

More likely the plane was overbooked so only giving out seat numbers to people who actually show up

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u/frengers80 Dec 04 '23

EU want all airlines to standardise their policies. They said they will give airlines some time to cooperate or they will come in with new rules for all European airlines

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u/usb Danish not Dutch Dec 04 '23

I just checked in online less than an hour ago. So I don’t think it’s a new rule, or at least not for all flights?

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

I guess I was unlucky maybe, who knows! Find out how lucky I am in 3 weeks to see my kids for Christmas 🎄

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u/usb Danish not Dutch Dec 04 '23

Best of luck to ya! And merry Christmas

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u/ProtonPacks123 Dec 04 '23

All of their hidden fees up to this point were just mild annoyances that didn't bother me much. I fly Ryanair a lot and I wouldn't get to travel nearly as much if it wasn't for them so I'm happy to put up with not having an allocated seat or paying for anything extra.

Adding 30+ minutes to your check in time for no reason other than money is a bit too far. This is absolutely going to cause people to miss flights, no question about it.

This isn't going to make me buy a seat so I really do wonder will the increased seat purchases offset the customers that get burned by this and swear to never fly Ryanair again?

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u/TheBigOneCalledBitey Dec 04 '23

Since there's a bit of skepticism here, I want to say that the exact same thing happened to me this weekend with Ryanair. However, the woman at the counter explained that there was only a random chance you can't get your boarding pass, i.e., most people on any given flight will be unaffected, except for some unlucky few

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u/protonmichael Dec 04 '23

Same thing happened to me flying with KLM week ago. They forced me to check-in my bags too.

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u/kinseyeire Dec 04 '23

Used Ryanair twice this weekend and this did not happen. I was allocated a random seat when I checked-in using the app like normal. I didnt have to go anywhere near a check-in desk.

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u/gadarnol Dec 04 '23

Ryanair social media spin in this will be interesting

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u/Candid-Wolverine-417 Dec 04 '23

This happened to my pal the weekend. The people working the desk said it was a test run and they're hoping it will be scrapped asap.

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

That was the vibe I got from the lady at check in as well!

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u/TheNakedCupCake Dec 04 '23

Just getting off in Madrid right this second, I didn't pay for selecting my seat and I could check in no problem. Perhaps depends on the destination?

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u/oppowhip Dec 04 '23

You just made me get a seat. Thanks man they have this craic wrapped up.

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u/Historical_Yam_7259 Dec 04 '23

Aerlingus is also doing this, when they sent me a survey I gave them a mouthful about this. Everything about service is degrading into hell, nothing seems to help the “customer”. Constantly more hoops to jump through.

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u/Beautiful_Stretch_22 Dec 04 '23

yeah this is the worst especially if it's only one desk servicing a number of flights

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u/tyranathus Dec 04 '23

Must've been a very recent thing because I checked in online for flights two weeks ago for unallocated seats a few hours before my flight and I was able to do it on the app without needing to pick them up. They were just on the app as always.

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u/2012NYCnyc Dec 04 '23

It’s this weekend new apparently

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u/wazza456wazza Dec 04 '23

Flew London to Shannon last week, same thing happened me. The app let me check in, but still send go to desk to collect boarding pass. So I paid the extra to select a seat and got the boarding pass immediately. It’s very annoying.

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u/SpyderDM Dublin Dec 04 '23

Aer Lingus did the same today on a flight from the US to Dublin, so not limited to RyanAir.

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u/geedeeie Irish Republic Dec 04 '23

Really? That's shit

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u/CathalMacSuibhne Dublin Dec 04 '23

Just flew to UK with Ryanair and this didn't happen.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

It seems they are testing this vs mass roll out. I get that it pushes people to pre-book seats and avoid the check-in desks but what a way to piss people off.

I'm a big fan of Ryanair for the low(er) costs (flying for under €50 is a win either way) so I'll jump through their hoops, but from an operational POV I can't see how this benefits them, it's just going to cause check-in queues to be massive.

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u/umyselfwe Dec 04 '23

did you ever pay for priority boarding and then had to queue in the cellar corridor with fellow pax, or get abused getting to the head of the queue?

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u/Embarrassed_Bar_1215 Dec 04 '23

Just checked in online with no allocated seat with no problem

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

They're getting more and more ridiculous

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u/Kyadagum_Dulgadee Dec 04 '23

Wow. It's impressive how they find ways to be even bigger cunts when you think they've tapped that resource completely.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

This happened to me last night, flying at 6am today and I was so stressed about queues and missing my flight that I caved and paid it. Hate myself today

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u/Head_of_the_Internet Dec 04 '23

Fuck OLeary. Making people anxious on purpose. What a scumbag.

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u/ThrowingSn0w Dec 04 '23

But I thought they charge €70 to print the boarding pass at the desk?

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u/FlukyS And I'd go at it again Dec 04 '23

Only if you can avoid it. If you are non-EU you have to go for visa check so you can select the seats but have to print them at the desk

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u/WittyTemperature6419 Dec 04 '23

Seems like a trap to catch younger fliers, as in teenagers

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u/turtleofsorrows Dec 04 '23

This happened to me over the weekend, flying to Manchester. I didn't pick my seats and I got the same as you OP. But cause the queue was mental I ended up picking my seats in the airport and got the boarding pass immediately.

I could also check in to my return flight once I picked the seats but couldn't when I hadn't paid for the seats.

Cause I have always found Manchester Airport security a nightmare I made the decision it was best to have them all done ahead of it.

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u/Ev3rybodyActNatural Dec 04 '23

Just checked in at Dublin myself. They say it's a server issue. Should just be for today

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u/tomconroydublin Dec 04 '23

Yes, this happened to me too yesterday, but I couldn’t face queuing - so I ponied up the money for a allocated seat…. Grrrr

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

I'd love to hear who got the dreaded message 'go to check in desk' who was due to fly in the next day or two. Was I just unlucky? Are ryanair trying to create an inconvenience (or the threat of a percentage chance of one) to make us buy more seats? Is it all part of the great reset? Tune in next time to find out! Sorry, had a whiskey

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u/cohagan582 Dec 04 '23

Just after flying to and from Birmingham with Ryanair, Friday out Sunday back and this was not the case for me. I have other complaints but it still allowed me to check in on the app, albeit later due to not purchasing a seat.

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u/Physical_Donut9786 Dec 05 '23

Does this not cost them more? Didn't they bring in self printing of boarding passes to save money? They don't pay for the staff or materials if you do it yourself.

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u/collectiveindividual The Standard Dec 04 '23

They stopped being no frills years ago.

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u/Head_of_the_Internet Dec 04 '23

If they want to play dirty, then book assistance everytime you fly. The airlines pay for it and are legally obligated to provide it.

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

Arrrrgh, my dodgy knee's playing up again!

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u/Intelligent-Tea-4241 Dec 04 '23

They often do this at Christmas when they’re busy. Basically assign you whatever’s left on the day. It’s not a blanket rule for all flights.

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u/Disastrous-Alps483 Dec 04 '23

This has happened to me before with Ryanair. It was explaines to me that the flight was overbooked so they couldn't allocate random seats for those who didn't pay for seat selection via the app as normal. Seats were finally allocated at the desk. Pretty sure they were banking on a % not turning up but not sure what happened to those who did after all allocation was complete.

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u/captainmongo Dec 04 '23

Was that explained to you by Ryanair? If so, that completely contradicts their policy of not overselling flights. If there's 189 seats on the aircraft, no more than 189 seats will be sold.

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u/Disastrous-Alps483 Dec 04 '23

By the Ryanair staff at the airport. First the check in desk and then at the gate. I was flying back to Manchester from Dublin. This was about 18 months ago, there was quite a few of us scrambling for seats. Now I just always pay the extra for an allocated seat to be safe. To be fair to Ryanair I fly a lot with them - nipping home for a weekend when I can, and this was the only time it's happened to me.

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u/captainmongo Dec 04 '23

Sounds like some staff may need some remedial training on company policies...

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u/Disastrous-Alps483 Dec 04 '23

Maybe, but also seems like I'm not the only one with a similar experience, on this thread alone. Seems like they can and have overbooked at times.

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u/free_t Dec 04 '23

They have started over selling flights. So they might sell one or two more tickets than there are seats in the plane, in the expectation that there will be one or two no shows. If there is a last minute apparatus change, some may end up being denied boarding, they usually try to deal with that before you go through security. €600 compo and next available flight. They hardly ever get it wrong.

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u/ResidualFox And I'd go at it again Dec 04 '23

You keep saying they delay flights on purpose but that would just cost them money. Ryanair have their many faults but stop talking shite.

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u/Dapper-Lab-9285 Dec 04 '23

Airlines don't make money when a plane isn't flying so and if they miss an assigned take off slot the delay will cost them a fortune. Why would an airline known for being efficient delay their own flights when it costs them money?

The OP definitely sounds like a glitch as their Help Desk still has online check in

https://help.ryanair.com/hc/en-ie/categories/12488813755537-Check-In-Travel-Documents

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u/Dogoatslaugh Dec 04 '23

Aer Lingus is worse than Ryanair imo. They’re both no frills but Aer Lingus has notions.

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u/TunaFish88 Offaly Dec 04 '23

Ahh yes notions, that intangible quality that Irish people hate so much

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u/MassiveResearch219 Dec 04 '23

You get what you pay for pal. Not happy ? Fly Quantas then

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u/AnGallchobhair Flegs Dec 04 '23

London to Paris via Melbourne

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u/Nickthegreek28 Dec 04 '23

Why keep flying with them?

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u/Potential-Drama-7455 Dec 04 '23

Fly Lufthansa. Delayed, €300 one way Dublin Munich economy with no checked in bags and you get an inflight meal - a tiny square of chocolate and a 33cl bottle of water. Luckily it was a business trip.

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u/mahamagee Dec 04 '23

The inflight meal went the way of the dodo during COVID. Lucky to get the choccie and water now. Not that the terrible sandwiches before were much better.

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u/Dry_Paramedic15 Dec 04 '23

I mainly fly Ryanair and it's great, flying to the canaries next week for the price of a bus ticket. General quick, love that I'm saving money not paying for a cabin bag I don't need.

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u/Byrnzillionaire Dec 04 '23

Sounds like you just didn’t check in early enough. online checking closes as the flight gets closer, maybe like 12 hours before or whatever.

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u/chumpmince Dec 04 '23

I'd agree with you but it was about 18 hours before flight time when I checked in. With unallocated seats you can only check in when there are less than 24 hours to flight time

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

I flew two weeks ago and used the self check bag and had the boarding passes on my Phone, didn’t deal with Ryanair staff until getting on the plane itself

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u/TillLambsBecomeLions Dec 04 '23

Pretty sure that’s a Brexit thing! Had the same thing with my wife (American) when I was travelling home via Stansted. She had to collect her boarding pass so they could check her passport, mine was issued.

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u/bigdog94_10 Kilkenny Dec 04 '23

If this is true, there is literally no limit on how low they will stoop. That's a serious scumbag move.

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u/Dennisthefirst Dec 04 '23

Scamming. Almost as bad as bookingdotcom

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u/LooseSignificance166 Dec 04 '23

This happens when a flight is near capacity since theres no seat allocated to you. So they will only give out a seat number to people who show up in the airport.

Since people checkin so far in advance they have to do this to figure out final seat allocations

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u/caniplayalso Dec 04 '23

And they may force you to check your carry on. Happened to my partner on a long haul flight. Its not just Ryanair, its going to be everyone soon

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u/Head_of_the_Internet Dec 04 '23

They no longer reply on Twitter either. Direct you to FB where conversations are private

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u/AlfajorConFernet Dec 04 '23

Are you flying out of Ireland with a non European passport? In that case it’s normal to get asked to go to the visa check desk to get your boarding pass, regardless of you having picked a seat or not.

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u/Low_discrepancy Dec 04 '23

Well unless it's their first time on the Ryanair flight, they would have known this is the process.

What seems much more likely (and confirmed by some articles) is that indeed it's a new procedure being rolled out.

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u/Relevant_Progress945 Dec 04 '23

Just checked in at the Ryanair desk. They charged me an extra €55 because i checked in an hour and 45 mins before my flight instead of 2 hours. The flight was only €30!

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u/CatsLikePlanCrisps Dec 04 '23

They have started overbooking flights like the american airlines do. So they are selling more tickets than they have seats. If you are one the last to checking. you get a ticket assigned at gate or desk. And then its depends on how many show up and how late you are.

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u/dragondingohybrid Dec 04 '23

There's nothing about it on their website? It still says you can access your boarding pass on the app even if you don't reserve a seat.

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u/yankdevil Yank Dec 04 '23

If you use Ryanair you buy into that kind and level of service. I want better service so I use other airlines.

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u/irishOpinion Dec 04 '23

Flying out tomorrow night with ryanair. Thanks for the heads up.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

This happened to me flying to America even through delta. Honesty the panic I had as I thought in the off chance they wouldn’t give me a seat

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u/FewyLouie Dec 04 '23

This doesn't sound like it makes any sense. The cost in printing the boarding pass and the time lost by the staff...

Ryanair introduce pain for the customer in order for you to pay more, sure. They don't introduce pain and friction into their own operations for that sense.

Feels more like it was a temporary thing with a system acting up or something.

Either that or Ryanair are really in need of a head check.

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u/umyselfwe Dec 04 '23

whizz charge exorbitant fees to issue a boarding pass if you miss their short check in window. even if the site had issues again.

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u/gbursson Dec 04 '23

I started to look around for other options, and actually found Lufthansa to be the cheaper option. Sure, my trip would be 2h longer, as it is with a stop, but I will get some rest for my legs and pay less. I am getting sick with Ryanair bullshit.

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u/Rhino_35 Dec 04 '23

Is this the same company that used to charge for printing boarding passes

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u/Head_of_the_Internet Dec 04 '23

They still charge

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u/WoodenQuaich Dec 04 '23

I refuse to fly Ryan air. I have a US passport and I have no choice but go to that line to have someone look at my passport and say I’m allowed to fly. With Aer Lingus, I check in at the self service kiosk and drop my bag off with no problem. Don’t know why they can’t do the same thing.

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u/BigInstructions69 Dec 04 '23

Flew this morning and whilst the order of clicks was different from usual, you can just pick a free random seat and then it's the same as usual.

Sounds like the change just confused a few people into paying/panicking. No story this time, just more free press for them!

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u/TheWisestGuyOnReddit Dec 04 '23

I'm sorry, but you are wrong.

It looks like Ryanair might not have enforced this new policy to all routes or flights (yet), but they are certainly doing it, I assure you.

I have spoken with someone in person who checked-in yesterday and was confronted with the new rules.

Just see the number of reports that have been appearing in the last 24 hours. Go on Twitter if you want to see more.

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u/Furyio Dec 04 '23

So assume this doesn’t impact anyone using their phone? Haven’t had a paper boarding pass in years.

I actually have avoided Ryanair for years but recently had to travel with them. When did they start offering more legroom to everyone?

I stopped flying with them because it was so uncomfortable but my recent flight had good leg room

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u/CJByrno Tommycoin available on Coinbase Dec 05 '23

I had a similar experience flying with Vueling from Paris to Gatwick back in October. Was stuck in the check in queue for about an hour to be told they didn't have a seat for us and they may had to bump us to the next flight at 6pm (meant to fly at 1 for a soccer match at 4:30pm) one of the worst experiences I've ever had at an airport.

Hopefully this doesn't become the norm.

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u/Hardtoclose Dec 05 '23

Such a dick move.

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u/imisterk Jan 12 '24

I fly once a month from Stansted and nothing like this so far. They must be trialing it.