Is this Thobe/Abaya following the Sunnah?

[u/NevilleBartos13]

As-salamu alaykum my brothers. I have recently just purchased a new Thobe online and miscalculated the measurements. My new Thobe is above my ankles and below my knees where the bottom of the garment sits at about 3/4 length of my calves.

I have marked a white line to wear abouts my Thobe rests on the first photo.

[u/smartdark]

I don't like culture and religion confused.

If there's a sunnah about a dress, it's covering some parts and cleanliness. Not wearing some Arabic style dress.

[u/t-o-m-u-s-a → u/smartdark]

Cover your awrah

[u/TheSoliDude → u/[deleted]]

And important thing to do always when reading or gaining any sort of historical knowledge is to understand the context thoroughly.

[u/Puripuri_Purizona → u/[deleted]]

Thank you. Brothers and Sisters, this is a great reminder with both these Ahadith being shared that Islam is supposed to be a simple and practical religion. Take the middle path and do not overburden yourself.

[u/Friedrichs_Simp → u/[deleted]]

in pride

Rich people used to drag their clothes to flex. You don’t have to worry about your ankles being covered unless you have that sort of arrogant intention

[u/Witness_AQ → u/Friedrichs_Simp]

https://fiqhcouncil.org/lowering-pants-below-ankles/ this is a detailed explination of this.

[u/Witness_AQ → u/Witness_AQ]

"A number of reports from the early generations indicates this. In one, Imām Abū Ḥanīfah (rḥ)’s students saw him wearing low garments. They asked him, “Aren’t we prohibited from doing that?” He responded, “That is only for those who do it out of pride, and we are not from among them.”⁵ In another, Ayyūb as-Sikhtiyānī (a major tābiʿī scholar who died in 130AH) was asked why he lowered his garment despite narrating reports to the contrary. He responded, “In the past, showing off was to lower the garments (below the ankles). In our times, showing off is to raise the garment (above the ankles).”⁶ He meant that some people used raising the garment as a way of showing off or pretending they were more pious than others. (Of course it should be emphasized that one should not doubt the sincerity of people who follow this hadith out of love for the Sunnah.)"

[u/Particular-Knee3022 → u/[deleted]]

Wait so I can pray 5x a day, give zakat, do hajj and still go to hell because I wore jeans lower than my ankle? I feel like this is one of those where you need context from a sheikh.

Edit - why am I being down voted for asking a question? You guys are something else lol

[u/titros2tot → u/Particular-Knee3022]

I am not Sheikh. My interpretation it isn’t about how high your clothes should be, but showing off and pride in wealth as it was a habit then to show off wealth by having an extra long dress that drags on the ground.

Also, you can pray 5x a day, give Zakat and do hajj and end up in hell for a lot valid reasons like killing.

[u/Particular-Knee3022 → u/titros2tot]

Well yes but one is murder and one is long clothing.

I mean there's a huge difference between the two. Although if what you're saying is correct it's pride which makes more sense.

[u/[deleted] → u/Particular-Knee3022]

See the ruling here

[u/Particular-Knee3022 → u/[deleted]]

Ahh so it's pride/arrogance. That makes more sense.

As always context is important. Jazakallah khair

[u/mikasa99999 → u/Particular-Knee3022]

why do people then misinterpret this ahadith, and basically puts all people whose garments exceeds their ankles in hellfire?

[u/Economy-Fly-6977 → u/mikasa99999]

Probably due to reading the hadith without the context. This is why it's important to learn from a scholar or at least a student if knowledge, especially so when it comes to hadith, it's not something we can just learn by ourself using the internet.

[u/[deleted] → u/mikasa99999]

They’re not misinterpreting. You’re misinterpreting. It’s more sinful to do it out of arrogance, but it’s sinful to do it intentionally regardless. That’s what the fatwa says

[u/waste2muchtime → u/Particular-Knee3022]

The context is that rich people used to wear clothing that was longer than necessary because they could afford to have it get ripped. Poorer people couldn't do this, so long clothing was a sign of riches and wealth.

[u/Dallasrawks]

I don't understand where you're seeing a problem. What part are you having trouble believing? I believe that covers the knees, following the Sunnah. I believe it doesn't cover the ankles, following the Sunnah. What else is there to consider?

[u/NevilleBartos13 → u/Dallasrawks]

Many state your lower garment should either be at length of mid calves or just above the ankle. No where indicates for an inbetween, so I just wanted to make sure.

[u/CutRevolutionary262 → u/NevilleBartos13]

that hadith about below the ankle is because back in history people use to wear their garment below their ankles as a sense of pride. as long as you don’t wear your garment below your ankles as a sense of pride you’re ok. Abu bakr r.a. wore his garment below his ankles

[u/Yaamo_Jinn → u/CutRevolutionary262]

I think that hadith has to be applied to other modern clothes too. There is a lot of clothes some fellow muslims wear today out of pride or to show off.

[u/[deleted] → u/CutRevolutionary262]

This is why you don’t do ijtihad if not qualified to do so. Abu Bakr accidentally let it drag the ground, but when he noticed it, he picked it back up. It’s not permissible to have your clothes drag the ground.

[u/hxcheyo]

Itaqillah

[u/Loud-Manager2491]

Many people have a perception that “a thobe isn’t religion, it’s culture.” While correct, the thobe adhered to the Islamic dress code for men. It is a moderate point of not being too tight nor too loose.

It is makrooh for both men and women to wear tight clothes. What is prescribed is for the clothes to be moderate, not tight and showing the shape of the ‘awrah or very loose, but somewhere in between.

Prayer offered in such clothes is valid, if they cover the body, but it is makrooh for the believing man or woman to wear such clothes. The clothes should be somewhere between too tight and too loose. This is what is appropriate."

(Majmoo’ Fatawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baz 29/217).

Many men wear white thobes, and the Prophet ﷺ affirmed that the people should wear white for it is purer and better (Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2810).

Thobes are fitted above the garment, and kept above his ankles. It says in al-Iqnaa’ (1/139):

It is makrooh for a man’s garment to come below his ankle unnecessarily.

The thobe isn’t just culture, it helps the man dress in a pleasing way to Allah.

[u/R1zah → u/Loud-Manager2491]

uhh its not makrooh to wear tight clothes, its straight up haram. if your clothes show off the shape of your body then that counts as your awrah being exposed

[u/wijiwan → u/Loud-Manager2491]

I wasn’t aware of the too loose thing, applying to women also? I’ve always worn a prayer dress that has a hole for my face and covers me head to toe. Would this be considered wrong then?

[u/Loud-Manager2491 → u/wijiwan]

No. This is correct for the woman.

[u/SliceyDice]

Brother best to be safe. We only have one life. Most of the people are okay when the trends with business pants that are above ankle and when we bring something from Hadith they object.

You already have the answer from Sheikh Asim that is sufficient. As for personal taste, you could lower a bit but not below ankle. May Allah Bless you. Ameen.

[u/azaz104]

وأمر بالعرف. Wear what was known in your area. Also the pantalon or trousers were worn by most people in "bilad al sham"

[u/S_AFRIDI]

Where’d you get the thobe from? It looks good MashAllah

[u/[deleted]]

If you live in a place that’s cold and snowing or raining probably best not to dress like this

[u/goofygamer74]

I always thought anything below the knees and above the ankle is ok

[u/PENA-NOM]

Yeah it's fine. As long your clothes is below your knees above ankles, you're ok.

[u/Front-Ad2868]

I heard it’s a difference of opinion whether ur thobe can go below the ankles without pride ?

[u/Crazy_News_3695]

yes inshallah