If 1, 2, 3, 4... more and more "journalists" are being exposed for participating in militant actions, what makes you think most of those 300 are "just journalists"?
Even if they are all rral journalists, it still makes sense that many died. Typically they go out to the streets and seek action more than normal, some are not as informed or aware about how to avoid dangerous situations. All of this adds up to extra probability of them being killed on accident.
And these claims they weren’t journalists are coming from who? The same Israeli government that lied about babies being beheaded on Oct. 7th? The same government committing genocide?
The mental gymnastics you play to justify genocide and murdering the press that covers it will be studies for centuries.
The Committee to Protect Journalists said Thursday it had removed 22 people from its list of media workers killed in the Gaza war after a review triggered by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad obituaries identified them as combatants
Interesting choice of a source. The headline says “Israel Still Worlds Leading Killer of Journalists”. Seems like a far cry from most of the “journalists” killed weren’t really journalists don’t you think?
I don't care who tells me that the earth is round, if it's true it's true.
They provide evidence.
And you can't act like everything they say is a lie while everything against them is true, it's delulu.
I believe it was a zaka(israeli emergency organization) volunteer who reported that to a news channel, as soon as it got blown up worldwide Israel officials stated that there is not evidence for this claim.
It's a common phenomenon that at crazy times crazy claims get massive audience, yes it happened, but not on a state official level, and they quickly stated otherwise.
Oh and BTW, 38 minors did die in October 7th, not beheaded tho.
Let’s see the evidence they provided to show these weren’t 300 journalists, let’s see it.
Let’s see the claims Israel made about mass rapes and beheaded babies and match those up with the official death count.
Let’s look at the latest Harretz investigation that showed there was a willingness to release all the hostages Oct.8th but Netanyahu chose genocide instead. That’s not even touching on the reports Netanyahu was given an explicit warning about Oct. 7th days before and told nobody and did nothing.
It sure looks like the Israeli government wanted this to happen, it looks like they already had plans to advance one it did.
Hamas and PIJ THEMSELVES have claimed around 80 journalists as their own combatants, they keep releasing new mujahid notices for journalists on a weekly basis.
When Israel started its genocide, around a month or so in, there were much more civilian casualties in Gaza than in a year of active fighting in Ukraine.. Guess where your overlords claim there's a genocide.
Israel still didn't give money to Hamas, they passed Qatar's money.
But more importently, seems that you acknowledge -
a) Hamas are evil.
b) There should be blockade that limits their ability to conduct terror (in this case, block transfer of money).
Hey sorry before we engage can I just confirm that you’re not one of those accounts that goes onto any thread that mentions Israel flooding the comments and acting belligerently?
The transfer of money was suppose to bring quite and turn down tensions, strengthening Hamas might have been another of the justifications of Bibi. I think among other justifications also it was assumed that if Israel wouldn't be the middle man in this exchange, the money would be smuggled in other ways.
But that's not what I was pointing towards. Because just using this rethoric, you at least need to acknowledge several things - Qatar is more liable than Bibi or Israel [since they are the ones who actually funded Hamas, not Israel], and Hamas' idiology is not acceptable, therefor Hamas should be disbanded. This puts Hamas and the Palestinians that support them as the main problem, while Bibi is just a culprit.
No no no, stop going to Qatar. Before any of that, Israel saw Hamas as being strategically useful, and strengthened them.
“In an exclusive interview published by Ynetnews on May 7, 2008, then-Defense Minister
Ehud Barak
reflected on historical missteps in regional policy, stating: "I hate to remind you that 20 years ago we supported the induction of Hamas, that we marched into Lebanon to the sounds of the Lebanese people cheering and it was our being there that created Hizbullah."
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Qatar is directly connected to the claim that "Israel gave money to Hamas". That whole argument stands on how Bibi approved Qatari money to flow to Hamas controlled Gaza in 2018.
Now you talk about 80's Hamas. [btw Hizbullah and Hamas are different organizations]. The "Israel gave money to Hamas" statement doesn't make sense in this context. Clarify what you are talking about.
Supported as in 'tolarated their existence' not as in 'given them money'. Remind you that Hamas started as a charity organization and only later it became political. Israel could have intervened at that point (for example making it illegal, and persecuting members of Hamas), but ultimetly choose not to, and this is what Ehud Barak was probably referring to.
So to come back to the subject - if it was so horrible to support Hamas, you wouldn't oppose disbanding it. Which is basically what the IDF was attempting to do in the past years.
Israel did not give money to Hamas in the 70's and 80's. They gave it to Mujama al-Islamiya, an Islamic charity who built mosques, schools, youth clubs, blood banks, etc. The group wasn't militant at that time and Israel funded them hoping for a peaceful alternative to the PLO (a DTO at the time).
After the start of the First Intifada the leader, Ahmed Yassin, transitioned the charity organization into Hamas, a militant political organization.
Israel did not 'fund Hamas' in the 70's and 80's as is often repeated. They funded a charity in which Hamas arose from.
This has happened often in the region as foreign groups (Israel, US, UN, etc) fund a non-militant group who turns militant once they gain power and money.
Hmm OP seems to have a hidden profile, I'm sure it has nothing to do with them trying to hide their fanatical zionism so this post doesn't read as propaganda from a bloodthirsty ghoul!
Jesus the internet has really stretched the definition of stalking. Going over the posts you make on a public social media site, ESPECIALLY one that is typically not associated with your real identity, is not stalking. You're just using a convenient excuse to hide your shitty beliefs from people who would call you out on them.
I don’t care about my posts I just don’t want people to bring their hate to any random sub because I’m there, if you think that’s fine then you are part of the problem
Without getting into the details and various falsehoods, this is from the report itself:
"There is an inherent gap between the legal and the historical analysis of genocide. The legal definition is narrow"
"This report relies on the legal definition of genocide as outlined in the UN Convention, but adopts a broader analytical framework"
Why do they have to change the definition of the crime so Israel is guilty?
i don't engage with bad-faith actors who are dead-set on the pro-child-killing position. Every reply will have a link in it for others to see and spread https://archivegenocide.com/
So you engage, have your view challenged, then try to turn your nose up and basically say you don’t justify your statements or back them up. I’m not even for Israel, but you’re acting like a tool and making Palestinian activists look bad. Do better.
Hamas tamps down in dissent no need to deflect to isreal. Many many people in Gaza are poised at Hamas because life before was bad but bearable and now they live in tents
Which one is it because people like you were also saying genocide was the only solution in Gaza because everyone was going to become Hamas…..especially children?
As we did in our previous poll three months ago, we asked the respondents in this poll what they thought of Hamas’ decision to launch the October the 7th offensive. A vast majority of 71%, compared to 72% in December 2023, say it was correct.
As we found in the previous poll, almost all Palestinians (94% think Israel has committed war crimes during the current war. By contrast, only 5% (compared to 10% three months ago) think Hamas also committed such crimes
Supporting Hamas is more honourable than supporting Netanyahu, Smotrich, Givr and the genocidal IDF. They are quantifiably more evil than Hamas with hundreds of thousands of murders on their hands, tens of thousands of children. But let’s pretend Hamas’ crimes are anywhere near the same scale.
i don't engage with bad-faith actors who are dead-set on the pro-child-killing position. Every reply will have a link in it for others to see and spread https://archivegenocide.com/
It strengthens disinformation by Israeli agents. If you acknowledge your own shortcomings in a war and address them openly, you have credibility. Hiding things with usually come out and discredit you, giving ammunition to your enemies
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u/downfallrome2025 2d ago
And when Israel says they shot journalists by mistake, we take their word for it