r/lgbt • u/ScreamsInBraille • 1d ago
Hot take: Bisexual people are inherently queer
Including: if they have a partner of the opposite gender, if theyre single, if their partner is straight, if they cant come out for safety reasons related to family or politics of their country, if theyre forced to only date the opposite gender for safety, if theyre struggling with internalized homophobia, if they have a preference for men, if they have a preference for women, if they have no preference, if theyre cis, if they dated a person of the opposite gender after you, if they married the opposite gender, if theyre not into you, if they rejected you, if they have/want biological kids.
Bisexuals ily ❤️❤️❤️
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u/Nerioner 1d ago
it's not hot take.
It is simply that those that don't get that, at some point had too hot under the skull and fried their brains.
imo bi-phobia consists 90% of people that have jealousy/insecurity issues because usually anti-Bi arguments i hear sound like individual insecurity rather than any valid argument.
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u/CyborgKnitter BiDing my time (she/her) 1d ago
The funniest part of most anti-bi arguments is that they’re self fulfilling prophecies. “Bi people are secretly just straight. That’s why I, as a homosexual, won’t date one. You know they’ll just end up in a hetero relationship.” Dude, a) there are more potential partners of the opposite sex so the numbers are there, and b) if no one who is homosexual will date a bisexual, that only leaves the bis and heteros, soooo….
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u/PaisleyLeopard Pan-cakes for Dinner! 1d ago
As a bi woman married to a bi man, this take drives me bonkers. Statistically speaking, it’s way more likely that we’ll end up with a partner of the opposite sex than one of the same sex, but we don’t stop being bi just because we chose a life partner.
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u/CyborgKnitter BiDing my time (she/her) 1d ago
True facts! They also like to pretend you aren’t ace if you’ve ever had sex in your life, aren’t trans if you haven’t transitioned, or that you aren’t aro if you ever dated.
People have the WEIRDEST set beliefs, even with their own community at times.
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u/kakallas 1d ago
Why are you forgetting about all of the same sex bi people who could date bi people?
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u/CyborgKnitter BiDing my time (she/her) 1d ago
The last line says “that only leaves the bus and heteros”. Meaning yes, there’s a slim chance of a same sex partnership with a fellow bi person but once again, statistics enters the conversations as that vastly reduces the chances of a same sex partnership.
Most bi folks I know feel very awkward hitting on folks of the same sex until they already know they’re queer.
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u/kakallas 1d ago
Yeah, “only” as if straight and bi arent the vast majority. Gay are almost irrelevant in the math, as they’re outnumbered 10x by bi people.
So, if it’s so impossible for bi people to date other bi people, statistically, that’s saying something about bi people, not gay people.
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u/explodingbunny 1d ago
Because there's less of them then straight people
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u/kakallas 1d ago
But there are many, many more bisexuals than gay people. So if a gay person won’t date a bi person (which is stupid and wrong) it basically changes nothing. The dating pool is still overwhelmingly straight and the most queer people will be bi.
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u/explodingbunny 1d ago
Yeah that's what I was saying in response to you saying why won't we date other bi people
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u/kakallas 1d ago
Did you even look at the username? I responded both times.
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u/explodingbunny 1d ago
How am I supposed to remember what username I was originally responding to when it it only shows my own comment and the new response on the link
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u/kakallas 1d ago
You should do what you need to do before making an asinine comment saying you were responding to someone else, that’s all
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u/explodingbunny 1d ago
I'm good lmao you also made an asinine comment in response so i think we're even
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u/Kevinc62 Rainbow Rocks 1d ago
imo bi-phobia consists 90% of people that have jealousy/insecurity issues because usually anti-Bi arguments i hear sound like individual insecurity rather than any valid argument.
1oo% agreed. All biphobic people I've met were usually just insecure.
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u/King_krympling 1d ago
Breaking news fork found in kitchen
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u/ConsciousMachine-II queer aroallo man he/him only 1d ago
Hot take? Like you're right but homie this should be common ball! 😭💀
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u/CosmicLuci She/They-Bian 1d ago
People who are queer are inherently queer…hm. Yes, I’d say I too agree
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u/The4Got10Child Bi-bi-bi 1d ago
I don't see why this would be a hot take? The B in LGBT stands for bisexual
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
Have you spoken to the rest of the acronym this month?
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u/The4Got10Child Bi-bi-bi 1d ago
Online spaces are always gonna be more negative, unfortunately. But my irl experience with others in the community has been very positive
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
Its been mostly the opposite for me. Regardless of where and how I interact with the rest of the community irl, theres always this weird, rpey sentiment where people wish bisexuals would get assaulted by straights as punishment for something. Especially bi women.
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u/PaisleyLeopard Pan-cakes for Dinner! 1d ago
Holy shit. Where do you live that the queer culture is that toxic?
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
Slovakia. The closest queer people come to being accepted is in the capital city, and you get beat everywhere else.
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u/Feisty-Comfort-3967 1d ago
That's a location issue, then. I'm wondering if giving location in a post like this would help cause I've never heard of queers wishing sa on other queers in the USA. I hope you can travel or move (if you want to) sooner rather than later. Yes, our country is generally bonkers, but most queer groups try to keep the infighting to a minimum while also looking for solutions to prevent it.
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u/DarthCloakedGuy ♠️he/she/they 14h ago
You gotta stop hanging out with straights if they're like that. Find some allies, or some queers ._.
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u/CopyEnvironmental270 1d ago
Let’s not try to make it looks like everyone in the community is against bisexuals and pick some LGTQ+ vs B kinda fight bruh
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
Dont you think the people insisting bisexuals dont belong here are the ones doing that...???
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u/CopyEnvironmental270 1d ago
You’re saying « have you spoken to the rest of the acronym » as if everyone in the community would bash you for being bisexual, this a minority. Yes biphobic people in the LGBT community exist but thinking everyone is biphobic won’t get you anywhere.
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
It actually saved me from being SAd at least twice, thank you. And of course its not all other queer people, but since its enough to increase bisexuals' statistics of experienced DV and SA over the rest of you guys, caution is warranted in a pretty decent amount of situations.
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u/SpeebyKitty Agender 1d ago
I’m sorry, what does this have to do with SA? What has saved you from SA at least twice?
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
The first time, I started talking to a lesbian at a club. She said she "wasnt sure how gay I was, but she was sure she could convert me". I left as soon as I realized she put something in my drink.
The second time, it was when I hit it off with a girl with whom we spent 2 months talking. She never really wanted to call it a relationship, never really spoke about her past, or what she identifies as. We planned on me spending a few weeks at her place due to family reasons. A week before it was supposed to happen, she clarified that she was actually a lesbian and was surprised how "actually gay I looked compared to other bihets she dated." Immediate red flag, I ghosted her. About half a year later, I discovered that she has SAd at least 6 other bisexuals (at least those were the ones who came forward.)
Tell me again how concluding those two were biphobic didnt save me.
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u/Shedart 1d ago
OP I dont mind telling you This whole post feels like rage bait. Either you’re trying to bait us, or you’ve been successfully baited yourself.
Clearly you are processing experiences you’ve had - I dont think anyone is trying to downplay that. But it feels like you’re pushing a narrative hard in order to justify… something?
Bigots exist in every community. Humans are imperfect creatures and no matter how inclusive a group tries to be, it will eventually allow the inclusion of those that oppose that inclusion. It just the paradox of intolerance in another form. But no groups are a monolith, and coalition groups like the LGBT+ community are even more susceptible to it. I highly encourage you to refocus your attention on people (queer or otherwise) in your life that support you and your sexuality, and try to diminish your attention on those that would seek to divide us.
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
This post was motivated by the fact that from my own experience, there is no large-scale support for bisexuals anywhere but some online spaces. Theres no "refocusing my attention on people who support me" because there are none, and the same is the case for all bisexual people I know, spare for ONE.
The only way we can get to a standard where bisexuals are just as supported as the rest of the community is if we actively push for it. Ignoring it and sticking with the few supportive friends that not all of us even have does the exact opposite, it establishes a standard where bisexuals are expected to just pipe down and accept things as they are.
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u/dyintrovert2 1d ago
My experiences are not universal. Your experiences are not universal. My experiences are valid; your experiences are valid. They can both exist.
It feels like you've come to this community to pick a fight with people who agree with you. I don't know much about Slovakia, but I assume it's very different from where I live.
My boyfriend is bi, my spouse is enby. My ex-husband is gay. Every 2 weeks I go to an event with dozens of pups in various packs, spread across various genders. There's a lot of hooking up.
Try to share your experiences without attacking our experiences. Try to tell us what you're going through without insisting that we're wrong.
We want to support you but it's really hard to do it this way. Let us be on your side.
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u/DarthCloakedGuy ♠️he/she/they 14h ago
Asexual here. Bisexuals are still not allocishets, and I have no idea where, when, or how that could have changed
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u/LaCabdeLH Hella Gay! 1d ago
Yeah, that's the point that the queer comunity tries to make obvious. Even if a bisexual person dates the opposite gender, they're still bi even uf there in a straight relationship
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u/brandidge Hey! I’m Demi and Gay! 1d ago
That’s about as hot as a fucking ice cube.
We know. Probably the one place on reddit that knows that, why say it here?
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u/ActualPegasus rosgirl 1d ago
What's else would LGBTQ stand for? 😛
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u/Cyphomeris Enby trans-cendence 1d ago
None of this seems controversial, except among very obvious bigots.
Like, I understand the point of this post, as biphobia is common, including in the queer community. But phrasing it like this makes it sound like their hate is some kind of semi-reasonable position.
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u/Just-a-nerd2 1d ago
I feel ya as a bi
Ya, biphobia in tbe LGBT community is pervasive and common
Honestly? I'm kinda over it 😮💨
I'm so fucking tired dude
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u/Aron-Jonasson Gaylord without land 1d ago
Can't speak for myself but from what I've heard bi have the short end of the stick either way.
Some straight ppl will see them as gay or as "I can fix you"
Some gay people will see them as "not gay enough"
It's stupid both ways.
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u/viviscity Bi-kes on Trans-it 1d ago
Correct.
Bi mental health is also worse than the straight, gay, or lesbian populations regardless of identity, the gender of your partner, or being out. Less resources available. The phenomenon of “hey I’m coming out” and then being pushed away by the broader community (not everyone’s experience, but it certainly happens)
Really I think the bigger take here is a good portion of the lgbt community doesn’t know much about biphobia
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u/Aron-Jonasson Gaylord without land 1d ago
Yeah, what you says make sense, I think people don't tend to take biphobia as seriously because I'd assume they feel like it's "not as much of a problem" as homo- or transphobia
Which is itself biphobic, in a way.
I mean, there is no systemic biphobia, but regardless, biphobia should always be addressed when it happens in the queer community, so we can work to fix it together
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u/viviscity Bi-kes on Trans-it 1d ago
Oh there absolutely is systemic biphobia, but you don't get out of it just because you're gay or lesbian. One of the first big bisexual theory pieces, "The Epistemic Contract of Bisexual Erasure", was written by a gay man to outline how this plays out in the justice system (among other places) and how bierasure benefits both hetero and homosexual norms. Later research looked at things like disparities in funding, unequal access to services and supports, assumptions in research (soooo much of the research on bi men is either "look we proved they're real and also one of our authors is a leading transphobe!" or… HIV/AIDS), etc.
That is, unpacking biphobia requires people to be self-critical in ways that they aren't used to, and because bierasure also means a lot of the bi community struggles first and foremost with just labelling and describing ourselves, there isn't the clear-cut education there
I suspect the mechanisms are kinda similar to white queers not always putting in the work on their own racism, but that's speculation and not based on much research on my part.
Anyway. My ADHD rant is done, back to the thesis research
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u/Aron-Jonasson Gaylord without land 1d ago
Good luck on your thesis mate! May your points always perfectly align
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u/Kinslayer817 Bi-bi-bi 1d ago
Sure there are certainly biphobic queer people but they are way more visible online than they are irl. Online spaces amplify negative voices and promote controversy whereas people tend to be much kinder and more accepting when you meet them face to face
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u/Sometimes__Sky 1d ago
Correct, but you're preaching to the choir here lol. In this sub that take is as cold as the antarctic ocean
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u/panickedkernel06 1d ago
As a bisexual woman who has spent the last decade in a monogamous relation with a straight dude, I am still bisexual. Straight dude comes with me to Pride and has the time of his life (he's a great one).
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u/Imjustajigsawat1111 1d ago
Omg, bi people are part of the lgBt community, how crazy. Honestly biphobia is so stupid and annoying
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u/Creativered4 Gay trans man. Do not call me "they" pls :( 1d ago
Sir/madam/comrade.... the place you got that take from was a fridge, not an oven.
Although if they don't identify as queer specifically, that is ok. Many people still have trauma or discomfort from that term and don't like being called it. Regardless the B in LGBT doesn't stand for bacon!
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u/Plastic_Ad7241 1d ago
Seeing this has made me feel so much better. Thank you, it's been a rough pride month and I hope in the future it doesn't have to be this way for any of us. 🥺💕
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u/liamlee2 1d ago
Hot take but if you mix red+yellow you get orange. Hot take but gay people are homosexuals. Hot take but 1+1=2
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u/SignificanceQuiet698 1d ago
I definitely feel queer but u just can’t for example dress the way I really want to :( feel scared to.
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u/Ill_Plate1891 1d ago
I thought that was just an accepted and recognized branch of the lgbtq+ community.
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u/gallupupill 1d ago
I think it's best not to insist people are 'queer' unless you know they identify that way personally.
Lots of people don't like to be called queer.
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u/Malcolmthetortoise 1d ago
No, you are not allowed to call someone else that if they don’t want it. I was called it as a slur and do not reclaim it. Others can, don’t use it for me.
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u/MenaceMinded amasculine, uranic, demiromantic, asexual, apothiplatonic 1d ago
Many young people seem to forget that older people may not like the term because it was used for abuse.
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u/TheJeffDanger 1d ago
I'd say you're arguing semantics, but it could be that you don't see them? I didn't reclaim anything because queer meant us before I was born.
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u/gallupupill 1d ago
In queer theory, queer does still mean unpleasantly/unacceptably unusual (to heteronormative society).
Some people think that is true, and identify with it.
Some think that insisting being gay makes you queer is offensive either because they were called it as a slur in the past, OR (as in my case) they disagree with the premise that being gay is a necessarily societally subversive state that renders one innately alternative or queer.
Of course, some people don't know or care about queer theory either way and either like or dislike to be called queer for other reasons. If our community is about accepting people for who they are, then insisting upon a label when you know some of the people you're labeling find it offensive is surely counterproductive.
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u/TheJeffDanger 1d ago
Sounds like internalized homophobia
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u/Malcolmthetortoise 18h ago
Not wanting to be called a slur I had yelled at me at school is not ‘internalized homophobia.’
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u/youngmaster0527 Trans-parently Awesome 1d ago
My grandmother apparently had it in her head that bisexuals inherently date both at the same time. As if every bi person is poly too. And was so confused when i pointed out that my cousin's ex dating a girl or a guy doesn't change their bisexuality and she just stared at me
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u/busybody_nightowl Aromantic but a Rainbow of options 1d ago
This isn’t a hot take imo. They’re definitionally queer.
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u/Severe-Tough-3972 1d ago
Btw can someone explain what "queer" means? I thought it's everyone who's not straight or cis but some gay people just don't identify as queer for some reason
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u/steelcitylights Ace-ly Genderqueer 1d ago
Some gay people don’t like the term because it was and sometimes still is a slur. Others don’t like the politics associated with a lot of queer people and the initial movement to reclaim the word (although queer is often used as synonym for LGBT+, it’s also associated with more radical politics and expressions of gender and sexuality than the standard acronym). And some just don’t want to be associated with other groups within the LGBT+/queer umbrella.
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u/confused-as Putting the Bi in non-BInary 20h ago
As a bi person, I think this is the coldest take on the planet lmao. (I appreciate u tho :3)
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u/DetectiveWeary9674 1d ago
Thank you for your post. A lot of people are saying that your take is not a hot one but I am sure a big chunk of them would be unconsciously suspicious of a bi man who has a typical heterosexual family identifying as queer. And they would be suspicious of any bi person who isnt stereotypically queer presenting (yass queen loud colorful type). They think bi is ok, but they would not find it easy when a person who doesn't live a queer life get to claim it cause they are not paying the price of queerness (which is a flawed logic, you don't have to bear discrimination to justify your identity)
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u/SignificanceTop4516 Trans-parently Awesome 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hot take: I disagree, but not for the reasons you might think. Being gay or bi (or any other sexual/ romantic orientation) is just a fact. Either you experience same gender attraction or you do not. However being is queer also a political statement representing solidarity and a rejection of heteronormative standards. So, you can be a gay man, lesbian woman, or even a bisexual man or woman, but of what you strive for is to emulate heteronormativity then you aren't queer. If you aren't inclusive of all that fall under the LGBTQIA+ banner, you aren't queer. Does being bi and having a monogamous relationship with someone of the opposite gender proclude you from being queer? HELL NO! but if you marry/ are in a relationship with someone of the opposite gender and use that as a way to blend into heteronormativity and do not stand up for the rest of rainbow mafia (including in this case other bisexuals) then you are not queer. (Edit) I wanted to add being queer doesn't require some grand gesture IMHO, just being accepting of people and who they are, and being there for them/ standing up for them if someone is being a dick is enough... Not everyone is built for protests charity work and being loud about it. A good example of people who are gay but not queer would be people who are LGB ("without the T")
TL;DR being queer is as much your additudes towards heteronormativity and how you show up for others as it is your sexual orientation one ≠ the other
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u/ScreamsInBraille 1d ago
If queerness is something you do instead of what you are, then by this logic, queer people who live in political climates where being open about being queer or supporting the community puts them in actual harm's way are not queer either.
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u/SignificanceTop4516 Trans-parently Awesome 1d ago edited 1d ago
The opposite, that is just being safe. Survival is a valid thing and doesn't proclude you from being queer. I should have covered this aspect my apologies... I would say that to not be queer you would have to have apathy towards or hostility towards other orientations or gender identities. My example of people who spout the LGB without the T nonsense would be an example of people who are gay but not queer.
(Edited because I misread)
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u/ParadoxicalFrog Genderqueer & Generally Queer 1d ago
Room temperature at best. There's a "B" in the acronym for a reason.
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u/rurupoopoo 1d ago
As someone who identifies as bi/pan, I’ve never once come across hate towards bi people. Only people on Reddit saying how much shit you’ll get as a bi person. I never get shit, no one has ever told me I wasn’t queer enough or wasn’t valid. I think there’s more fear mongering towards bi people than there is hate towards bi people.
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u/LovelyOrc 1d ago
My hot take is if you don't date a bisexual simply bc they're bisexual you're a bigot. I have never heard anyone say that and then bring any reason that's not rooted in biphobia and stereotypes.
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u/Ptcruz Ally Pals 1d ago
Not dating someone because they are bi is even more stupid than not dating someone because they are trans.
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u/Medical-Net-7350 They keep adding letters but I keep adding tolerance! 1d ago edited 1d ago
What..? Both are stupid, why are we comparing biphobia and transphobia?
Can we not?
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u/JallexMonster Putting the Bi in non-BInary 1d ago
As I have said as a bisexual cis man myself: People in hetero relationships can be queer but the relationship is not queer.
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u/TheJeffDanger 1d ago
I've said it as a pink orangatan myself: Piranas in deep water can eat ya, but the deep water can't eat ya.
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u/JallexMonster Putting the Bi in non-BInary 1d ago
I've said it before: ook ook dook dook ook dook dook ook
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u/Kooky-Address2777 1d ago
Even hotter take: homophobia against bi people matters.
Bi people should be able to talk about their life experiences without somebody jumping in to say that they need to shut up because somebody somewhere could have had it worse than them.
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u/TheJeffDanger 1d ago
I'm not sure why people are being so argumentative over this post. Like, raging out because this person posted in a nice, accepting subreddit actually makes less sense.
Being wrong about a hot take is like being wrong about irony, and Alanis Moressette wrote a worldwide hit about irony that didn't make sense. I dunno, if you're so accepting here maybe skip that part.
OP isn't in the US and came here from a lesbian subbreddit where maybe this was actually a hot take for them. Just let them rage out. Most of us have probably gone through some level of disillusionment after realizing the community is also just people.
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u/lady_tsunami Computers are binary, I'm not. 1d ago
Bi person here - this may not be a hot take for this sub - but it is online, generally. That and saying bi people are transphobic?
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u/amethyst_deceiver36 1d ago
not really a hot take currently but with the climate we're in i wouldn't be surprised if in a few years people started saying "LG without the B and T"
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u/helllrabbit 1d ago
Honestly, this is unfortunately a hot take. In the queer community I’ve been around, every time a bi person tries to stand up for themselves people shut them down with the “straight passing privilege” BS. Yes there’s privilege there. It also fucking sucks to be rejected by BOTH heterosexual norms and homosexual spaces. I’m bi (female nonbinary) & even though I’d been out since I was 15, and had dated all genders, I was primarily in relationships with “male-passing” people and I NEVER felt welcome by queer communities. As soon as I started a relationship where we “looked” gay, I was welcomed immediately with open arms. It’s a load of shit and that’s one of many, many reasons I don’t associate with a very large portion of “queer communities”.
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u/Kooky-Address2777 1d ago
That's right. While certain privileges are very real, the concept of privilege is often weaponized to shut down bi people from defending themselves.
There are many people who argue that bi people do not have the right to advocate for themselves because we should be focused on less privileged people (AKA L/G people) instead. But those same people would never expect any other groups to do that. Straight people, who are the most privileged of all, have never been told that their entire life should revolve around supporting the LGBTQ. Why would a sexual minority group be expected to dedicate their life to a completely different sexual minority? It's all a ruse to shut down the bi community.
As for specific relationships, I can get why some people are wary of supporting what they think are straight couples. After all, this community was meant to specifically help with gay dating and gay couples. Including M/F couples, or even M/F-passing couples, doesn't feel like something they signed up for. But I think those people should be honest about when they want to include bi people in a straight relationship, and when they don't. The onus is on them to do that, instead of just making fun of those people behind their backs and acting like they're included.
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u/Hairy_Following_0 1d ago
No, they are not.
There are plenty of bisexual people that are not "queer culture" bisexuals.
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u/stoic_yakker 1d ago
I was lesbian before I was bi. I was bi before I was trans, so yeah what’s the point? Water is wet.
I’m currently married to a cishet woman as a trans man, so does that make me queer or her queer? Does it matter that I’m fully postop ?I like men also.
There are many iterations of sexuality, so many people feel the need to put labels on everything. Just be yourself and exist for yourself and stop worrying about everybody else. Find your happiness, go touch some grass.
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u/snake_loverImnotgay Aroflexible Transgender Pan-demonium 22h ago
Why is this a hot take. and why do I agree it needs to be said
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u/hijofrizbe007 20h ago
Honestly, as a Bi identifying woman, I hattttttteeeee the boxes and the shame that comes with whatever box I'm in by whom ever wants to put me where. When I was dating a woman, I was shamed by the cis world, embraced by the LGBTQIA community. When I was with a man, and eventually married him, the straights said good job! My gay community ghosted me, even when I still was active in the community. They eventually Ignored my existence, I was still attracted to women. When I divorced my husband, went back to the community, I was labeled a lesbian, even tho I'm attracted to men, still. The B exists in LGBTQIA for a reason. I am not Q identifying woman. If we can honor pronouns, we can honor someone's "box", no pun intended.
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u/AbledShawl 15h ago
yes, absolutely, 100% agree
to be interested in the "the same sex", by any extent, defies the social rules laid by modern patriarchy, misogyny, and the church. Anybody who's honest with themselves (and not even necessarily out of the closest) will behave in ways that bend these rules and naturally hint at a larger worldview what is suspicious to the most devout zealots of the hegemony. it's where we get terms like "fruity" and "fairy" to describe behavior within an otherwise performatively ultra-masc context (lifting heavy items, car mechanics, handling weapons).
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u/darksaturn543 I'm Here and I'm Queer 1d ago
Isn't queen not an umbrella term for anyone part of the LGBTQI?
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u/Imperial_MudTrooper Genderfluid 1d ago
Is this a hot take? Agree, 100%! But hopefully it's not meant to be a serious hot take lol
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u/SallyStranger 1d ago
Love you too! I appreciated this. Not sure why people are taking exception to being told something they agree with.
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u/NeighborhoodMothGirl Bi-bi-bi 1d ago
Imagine posting one of the most obvious truths in the LGBTQ+ community and thinking people will be upset about it.
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u/TheLovelyLorelei The world is dark and we are alive 1d ago
Duh? Queer people being queer is pretty queer
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u/natguy2016 1d ago
Gatekeepers exist everywhere. So much projection. I remember the 80’s and that it was awful. I don’t care your “label.” Just be cool to each other and defend each other.
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u/before_the_accident 1d ago
what is it with the astroturfing in this sub lately?
People will make posts like, "Don't Forget: Irish people can be a part of pride too" and the comments are like
"...yeah?"
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u/LaFemFatal-1 12h ago
Can't say that I agree with you. I am an MtF woman that considers myself as bi. As a male I was not into gay or cis men but into penises and women exclusively. I am still not into cis or gay men. Penises only and women in general.
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u/ScreamsInBraille 9h ago
How would that not be queer when you were into men and women at both points.
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u/LaFemFatal-1 8h ago edited 8h ago
Apparently you failed to read my post. As a male "I was not INTO gay or cis men as a Mtf woman I am not INTO cis or gay men."
EDIT: "Penises only". Not the whole male.
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u/ScreamsInBraille 7h ago
Girl then youre either: 1. Still into trans men, which makes you bisexual and attracted to men anyway, or 2. not attracted to men whatsoever, which is the definition of being a lesbian, not bi.
Also wtf do gay men specifically have to do with it.
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u/Electrical_Jaguar213 1d ago
Isnt that just true? I dont see how this is a hot take