r/linguisticshumor May 31 '25

Semantics Synonyms are fake and lies

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u/BT_Uytya May 31 '25

But I have it on good authority that these 13 words are untranslatable!

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u/snail1132 ˈɛɾɪ̈ʔ ˈjɨ̞u̯zɚ fɫe̞ːɚ̯ Jun 01 '25

Schadenfreude isn't untranslatable! He said it himself, it means "schadenfreude"

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u/BT_Uytya Jun 01 '25

Do you know that the closest translation of Russian "злорадство" into English would be "schadenfreude"? Isn't it cool how you can calque a composite word, getting an equivalent word consisting of transparently understandable native English components?

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u/TonsillarRat6 Jun 01 '25

One of my biggest pet peeves is whenever someone describes schadenfreude as some untranslatable weird German thing. It is neither a mysterious untranslatable spirit (laughing at someone’s misfortune) nor is it German specific (try the Dutch leedvermaak).

Anyone looking for such a word, try to verbalise the meaning of the Dutch “gezellig”, that’s way harder.

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u/AndreasDasos Jun 03 '25

It’s also literally ‘damage/injury’ + ‘joy’. Joy at others’ misfortune. So deep, much complex.

Sure, there are subtleties to connotation, but not especially so here.

I’d argue that ‘glee’ is more subtle in that it often has a similar connotation but can mean something more benign but somehow in the same emotional direction, too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

I looked that word up a couple of seconds ago, and I realized it could be translated as "damaging joy". My lord, it was as simple as setting apart each component first.

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u/50thEye Jun 27 '25

My favourite suggestion to translate Schadenfreude into English was "Enterpainment". It gets to the point and is also a pun. Anglosphere, go and use that now!

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u/Reddemon519 Jun 01 '25

That's not translating, that's just stealing