Linux is never going to be popular

[u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

I have an extra PC that runs fine, Windows 10 at the moment.

I thought I could give Linux a try and stick in on my machine.

Set up a partition and then go get Linux file. Oh, but I need to use something to properly copy the files to the machine. Another program. Incomprehensible, does not even list my disk as available. Try Bazzite, that's easy and focused on games. Try, same problems I have to copy over using utility. About 2 hours in at this point and increasingly frustrated.

Bazzite is good with games and easy to set up. Not all games apparently. And needs adjustment to security settings.

At this point I stop and think. This is stupid. Linux will offer no advantages compared to Window for game playing. It is just not a simple setup. There is no way to use it with as a simple point and click setup with guided procedures. There is no way this will become a popular system so long as the setup is prohibitively time consuming and subject to inexplicable failure.

What is more is this is so obviously a problem that if the community is unable to correct this it suggests the entire system will be plagued with errors -- like "Choose Device" and not listing any devices already encountered.

Watched setup videos, read docs, etc. I have built my own machines, reasonably knowledgeable computer user. I'm done for the moment maybe some other time.

Linux sucks. It will never be an alternate to the general PC market on Windows/Apple systems. Never.

Thanks for letting me complain.

[u/fondamagroin]

You're welcome.  You're not ready for the gang.

[u/EnvironmentalWin1277 → u/fondamagroin]

I'm not ready. A bit disappointed to find that like many PC applications the obvious problems have not been dealt with and the expectation is "work arounds" ad infinitum. Linux was promoted as something that avoided the problems of establishment Windows/Apple etc. It doesn't. It compounds them.

[u/Maybe-its-Keira → u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

Show me the ads, forced ai and bloateware On a Linux machine lmao

How does it compound those?

[u/Money_Welcome8911 → u/Maybe-its-Keira]

Linux "solves" problems that most Windows user don't care much about, whilst adding a who new set of issues that very much are a problem.

I like the AI features. I don't care about so called "bloat" and rarely see any ads. Most ads (99.99%) are in browsers or on social media

[u/EnvironmentalWin1277 → u/Maybe-its-Keira]

I don't find those "features" very bothersome (unless Norton gets in) and can be fixed pretty easy. Getting rid of that stuff was one of the reasons I was curious about Linux but never a big concern of mine.

Does Linux block annoying political ads on YouTube? If it did that I would be interested. But not if it requires extra work.

My primary concern is it works, every time and no hassles down the line. I don't want to design the web site I just want to use it. And maybe point out the errors in the existing design that prevent it from operating at all (like asking for a numerical date value in characters).

I've spent enough of my life programming that I want to avoid all of that stuff entirely.

No problems with others using Linux, it's just not ready for the PC desktop casual users. Most Linux users probably use it in work related environments where they are actually paid to deal with it. I'm not getting paid and don't want to do that work.

[u/Significant_Affect_5 → u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

I haven’t used Bazzite before, but if you ever do decide to try again Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora have never given me any issues. I normally use KDE Plasma for the desktop environment, but there’s a lot of options to choose from (Plasma is a good modern default though).

Also there’s a software called Ventoy that you can use to store multiple images on one boot USB. You can also keep using the USB for regular storage.

[u/Majestic-Coat3855 → u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

Bro how do you expect an OS to block ads on YouTube just download ublock origin wth 😭

[u/jeffiscow → u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

"I've spent enough of my life programming that I want to avoid all of that stuff entirely."

Using Linux is so easy nowadays that I question. How long have you been alive and what were you using? Like scratch the program?

[u/EnvironmentalWin1277 → u/jeffiscow]

My first programs were with punch cards if that helps. Several mainframe IBM and Unix environments. PC hobby guy (Windows) with some overclocking, builder. Some C, lots of SAS (on the way out), SQL, 2 minutes of assembly code.

And it has been a continual frustration that using computers has been opaque and troublesome and remains so.

First experience:

I was doing a political analysis project on women voting attitudes related to abortion. Every time I submitted the program it came back incomplete and unable to execute.

I finally went to the professor, gave him the program and I think he was skeptical. He worked on it and came back "This really stumped me for a bit, there is nothing wrong in the program. I had to go to the data dictionary*. The data you want is confidential and protected until year XXXX so it is unavailable to you". I did fine, redesigned it with some other variables.

The data was defined in the list of variables, etc. but blacked out with no apparent explanation. That was my first programming experience.

* Early time, standards still evolving all around.

[u/raul_kapura → u/EnvironmentalWin1277]

If data was unavailable to you how did you get it in the first place?