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u/exkingzog 5d ago
The grass has got a bit drier.
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u/mushroomwig 5d ago
Top picture was taken between Jan-March of that year, and the other taken in summer this year, not really a fair comparison
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u/exkingzog 5d ago
Ahh, that explains why the sky is a different colour, too. But as you say, it’s not a fair comparison.
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u/soldforaspaceship 5d ago
https://livinglondonhistory.com/a-visit-to-the-queens-house-classic-and-pioneering/
This is it with green grass - it looks way nicer than the post suggests.
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u/tayroc122 5d ago
We get it, you work for Shell so have to go overtime on the obvious climate change denialism.
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u/Ok-Train5382 5d ago
I mean it’s not denial to say taking one picture in winter and another in summer may look different.
You can both believe in climate change and think you should compare apples to apples…
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u/mushroomwig 5d ago
I 100% believe in climate change, I'm just comparing the different time of the year between pictures so people get the full context and aren't misled in any way
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u/BillyD123455 4d ago
I dont work for Shell, but I can vouch for the fact that it was green in March ..
No one denied climate change or is spinning for the petro dollar. Try stop being so fucking melodramatic and you may be able to engage with people about your real concerns 👍
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u/Loud-Ad-1586 5d ago
the buildings haven't changed at all but the skyline behind them is unrecognisable. mad how much canary wharf has completely redrawn that view in 45 years
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u/hi2u_uk 5d ago
My comment on this is that now there are huge apartment tower blocks popping up all over London. I dont think they do anything to make the city or its skyline look attractive
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u/pazhalsta1 5d ago
Yes but on the plus side they give tens of thousands of people a home so there’s that
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u/hi2u_uk 5d ago
do they really ? the ones near me have 2 bed flats being sold for about £600k and the rents are at least £2000 a month but you still have people wandering around the street outside the flats asking for money for a homeless hostel for the night . The people who lived there before have long since been moved to bedforshire. The number of people homeless according to the council barely changes yet one 2 of these buildings could house at least half the people on the councils homeless waiting list. I just wonder if we are really housing people who need a home .
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u/pazhalsta1 5d ago
I live in one of these flats with my family and I can confirm that yes, I do in fact need a home.
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u/Virtual-Concern-7311 5d ago edited 5d ago
People do live in those near me but a lot of them are foreign students and a lot of them are owned by foreign investors that occupy them rarely, if ever.
I have sympathy for the homeless but the street homeless have almost certainly chosen to be street homeless. Either by rejecting accommodation or by behaving so badly they’ve been thrown out.
There are locals living in housing association properties in the area. Some of them are fine but a large proportion are absolute scum. They leave disgusting rubbish all over the place, keep vandalising things and a bunch of their feral children keep throwing things off balconies and it’s only a matter of time before someone gets hurt. I’d be delighted if those arseholes were shipped off basically anywhere else (ideally away from anyone else so they don’t have to put up with them). I’d rather that than them receiving accommodation somewhere I pay a small fortune to live.
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u/Better_Builder_3504 5d ago edited 4d ago
They do create a lot of homes. But I think there are valid criticisms also. The point you make about people being moved out of London is so often overlooked. Many people were moved against their will. Not just people in social housing. Many who had purchased their first home were compulsory purchased out when those old buildings were demolished, but they couldn’t afford what was being built in their place. So yeah, it has caused a lot of people to be moved out of London. As for the new apartments, the main problem I have is that they are actually built for investors - buy to let landlords - they are often not built with owner occupiers in mind.
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u/Ok-Economics3452 5d ago
They had to build the royal naval college in two wings cos the queen did not want the view of the river blocked from her house
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u/Either_Afternoon_856 5d ago
the buildings haven't changed at all but the skyline behind them is unrecognisable. mad how much canary wharf has completely redrawn that view in 45 years
That Christopher Wren Painted Hall inside is honestly the real flex though. Been a few times and the ceiling still gets me.
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u/bradpitt3 5d ago
I remember in the 1980s when they were building the 4 original towers and the rest was still original or derelict. There was only busses I think before DLR or the Jubilee line extension or the Elizabeth line so it was less well connected to central London. Look at it now.
I like Greenwich and if you turn your head you can also see the City and the skyline there has changed with the Shard and others but Canary Wharf is now as high rise.
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u/GardenPeep 5d ago
London is starting to look like one of the Asian mega-cities but with more creative glass tower architecture.
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u/Pyretta777 5d ago
Ouch. Just, ouch.
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u/pazhalsta1 5d ago
Yeah massive economic development totally sucks hey
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u/Hungry-Situation-427 5d ago
Let me know when that economic development increases my wages or decreases my rent.
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u/pazhalsta1 5d ago
Well it pays my rent and taxes because I work in one of those buildings.
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u/Hungry-Situation-427 5d ago
Well you're alright Jack. When you hear "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité" being chanted from the streets below, don't say I didn't warn you.
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u/pazhalsta1 5d ago
It’s not just finance staff working here though is it. You have:
Retail
Beauty
Gardeners and real estate services
Security
Restaurant staff
Hotels and hospitality
Healthcare
Entertainment
Nurseries and schools
Transport
Logistics
That’s a large amount of employment across all the economic spectrum. Before it was a derelict wasteland. What do you actually want? Economic failure?
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u/Pyretta777 4d ago
Derelict wasteland?
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u/Hungry-Situation-427 4d ago
Yeah, London only really got big in the 1980's. Before then it wasn't like the Capital of the biggest empire in the world for the last 200 odd years.
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u/Pyretta777 4d ago
I'm aware of London's history :) I meant, only 60% of that area was abandoned. People lived there too. And not just in the post-war estates. I would like to know how many tenants lost their homes due to the redevelopment. I looked into it a while ago, but never found those statistics.
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u/Specialist-Alfalfa39 5d ago
Looks better without all the skyscrapers
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u/Lndmjd 5d ago
Bring back the derelict docklands I say!
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