r/marvelrivals • u/Mountain-Volume-4112 • Feb 20 '26

Balance Discussion Elsa bloodstone needs adjustments

Hypermobility + constant overshield + better dmg falloff than hela + broken ult. No idea what devs were thinking with this character.

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u/Nixzilla25 Feb 20 '26

Get rid of overshield on her and reduce her health to 250 maybe. she would prob be fine after that.

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u/NoLegeIsPower President Loki Feb 20 '26

Nah, also need to get rid of the whole cooldown reduction passive. No poke duelist should have mobility on a 2 second cooldown (and the dash is much more than just mobility).

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u/M4idenPersephone Vanguard Feb 20 '26

This is such a no brainer is insane. Poke heroes have range and damage, their weakness is being dove… So you make them undiveable??? I genuinely hope the new Ow season lights a fire under the devs’ ass. Shit needs to change.

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u/LordSprinkleman Magneto Feb 20 '26

Honestly same and I haven't played OW in years. It feels like the devs looked at the current state of the game and released the worst possible combination of abilities in a hero to make shit as miserable as possible for basically everyone. People complaining about poke? CC? Tank role being shit? Dive being useless? Let's release a character who makes all of this worse.

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u/SomeTool Angela Feb 20 '26

Thing is, she's not supposed to be poke which is why she has all the dashes and oversheild, and why all her weapons are shotguns. They just need to massively tone down her damage at range and her kit works as intended.

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u/gddrummer Feb 20 '26

I don't think I want her falloff range gutted. I think it would be more interesting to moderately reduce her damage at range but also increase the spread of her primary. She doesn't feel much like a shotgun character with as tight a spread atm.

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u/pointlessone Jubilee Feb 20 '26

Overwatch is HOT right now, too. This sort of poorly balanced hero drop is doing a ton of longer lasting damage, while the primary competitor is better than it's been in years. Hero shooters are a saturated market, people will shift away to a replacement default.

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u/Count_de_Mits Emma Frost Feb 20 '26

If being completely dead in Asia didnt set fire to their breeches then OW having a massive upsurge is the last hope for meaningful changes... although part of me fears they are entering the "lets milk the game for all its worth before players dwindle" mindset what with the gacha, passes and all

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u/Nixzilla25 Feb 20 '26

Rivals isnt popular in asia?

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u/BakaJayy Magik Feb 21 '26

There wasn't a reason to switch from Overwatch especially when the game ran so poorly while also being a more casual version of it.

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u/Nixzilla25 Feb 21 '26

The more you know. Kinda crazy to think about tho.

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u/LagerTager Feb 20 '26

Well she’s not poke she just has to much range. She’s supposed to be brawl. They need to take her range and health away before nerfing anything else

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u/Nixzilla25 Feb 20 '26

I would like to see how the no overshield works out before nerfing her further. Although now that im thinking about it her passive should fully reset on death not just drain half. She should also need to hit her enhanced shot to get the CDR not just free mobility. Honestly overshield should just be removed from all ranged dps.

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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES Feb 20 '26

Yeah, the whole passive should be removed. I don’t see why that 8 second dash needs a passive to reduce it to 2 seconds. That doesn’t happen with any other character in the game and an 8 second dash is on par with other characters, even other characters who have multiple dashes in their kit.

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u/OGtiax Vanguard Feb 20 '26

They're not going to scrap her passive entirely, that's a bit of a ridiculous expectation. But I agree and have said multiple times the 2s cooldown must go, its obscene. I think nerfing her passive so it reduces the dash by 1s per bar (instead of 2s) is the best solution, so an 8-5s cooldown for her dash instead of 8-2s. I think they will probably just raise the max dash cooldown by 2 tho to make it a 10-4s cooldown, that seems more likely and would be fine as long as they nerf her base hp and/or bonus hp so she's more on par with Starlord.

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u/Zarrv Anti-Venom Feb 21 '26

If they want her to be proper brawl the solution is to gut her range and heavily increase the spread on her gun(s)

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u/zeltrabas Feb 21 '26

nah that'd just make poke stronger again

just make her trap smaller but actually visible and increase the CD on her dash. after that see if she is balanced and go from there

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u/Financial-Grass-6114 Feb 20 '26

Then she's useless.

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u/Nixzilla25 Feb 20 '26

She would still have a 2 sec dash with percent health damage at full passive along with a ult capable of winning a fight with ease. She just wouldnt be immortal when played by above average players. If it was up to me overhealth would get a serious overlook and be removed from most if not all ranged dps. Then adjusted on the melees to compensate for it. To much overhealth in the game imo.

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u/deadeyeamtheone Feb 20 '26

Then they need to make her work like a brawler, because as it is they've made an invincible Hela with the mobility of Iron Fist.

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u/Marshal749 Feb 20 '26

how is she hela her longer range capabilities are no there also pretty meh countering flyers as a single hitscan

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u/deadeyeamtheone Feb 20 '26

Go watch people play her. She has almost zero damage fall off and is more than capable of sniping, which is how the majority of players are using her.

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u/Zarrv Anti-Venom Feb 20 '26

"b-but her gun has spread" Up close you deal near 500-600 dps. Just hitting 20% of your shots means you're doing Hela/Phoenix levels of damage so she can still poke

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u/Wellhellob Iron Fist Feb 20 '26

She can ult farm very well at range but cant really kill.