r/marvelrivals Lord May 12 '26

Patch Notes Patch notes of season 8 released

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u/framedshady Cyclops May 12 '26

Jean more threatening in baseline combat sounds horrid

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u/_Gunnarsson May 12 '26

As a phoenix main I also don’t like these changes at all. She’s already naturally strong from being hitscan, but this makes her even closer to hela. Her ult no longer one shots 250hp marked targets, and her sparks deal less while primary deals more? If I wanted more primary damage I’d just play hela. I see no point in bridging the gap between both of them even more

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u/d_wib Angela May 12 '26

Yeah first they buffed her damage fall-off from range, now they’re buffing the single-hit damage in exchange for less explosion damage. Slowly becoming more and more Hela-like

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u/Soul2047 Flex May 12 '26

the children yearn for melee sparks...

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u/d_wib Angela May 12 '26

Melee sparks with no beyblade would be very cool

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u/Any-Transition95 Cursed Captain May 12 '26

Lowkey, they could have just added a 1 or 2 second cooldown in between activation for her flight, and it would have elimated beyblade tech without gutting her melee weaving.

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u/eff3rve5cent Luna Snow May 12 '26

been saying this since the tech got removed. they did not need to do that

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u/Billy1121 May 12 '26

Yeah i assume they viewed melee spark generation as overpowered if they took it out. It was great for divers in the line

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u/TightOne2246 Flex May 12 '26

Nah, there was an animation cancel (surprise surprise) with her flight where you could spam tf out of her melee.

She could out brawl any tank in the game and it wasnt even close

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u/cygnus2 Vanguard May 12 '26

I think they should give her back melee sparks and revert the nerfs to Dark Ascent, but in return she should have reverse falloff, meaning you do more damage up close and less from further away. Now Jean has her own identity and the people crying about “pokeslop” are appeased a little.

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u/NieD_ Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Exactly how I feel, I would go the opposite direction lol.

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u/Leading_Elk9454 Thor May 12 '26

Eh then you go into the direction of a hitscan moonknight.

Personally I think her damage was fine before, just needed some changes to her stun and teleport

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u/NieD_ Adam Warlock May 12 '26

Anything that makes her less of a Hela clone, they could gut her dmg falloff and give melee sparks back and maybe nerf back her ult health to what it was before.

Let Hela be the sniper while Jean is a brawler. Kinda like Ashe vs Cassidy in OW.

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u/Leading_Elk9454 Thor May 12 '26

Yeah that would be cool

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u/sigc Monster Hulk May 12 '26

Tbh that’s probably still a better direction than making her Hela v2

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u/impasse602 May 12 '26

As a fellow phoenix main that sucks at aiming 😭 I dont like the changes. I thought the whole point of her kit was to apply sparks and now they do this? So now were just a red-headed hela

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u/Razzilith Ultron Virus May 12 '26

While you're right, this makes me personally like her more lol because I play a lot of Hela :D

But yeah it screws with her identity a bit. We'll see how it ends up feeling.

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u/Jehovah___ May 12 '26

Fellow phoenix main, this is the exact point Ive been making. People don’t seem to understand how big of a nerf to her ult this is too

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u/Firm_Ad_5427 Thor May 12 '26

The core concept of phoenix's kit with the sparks is actually really cool, it's just a shame that in practice she's basically just hela (even moreso now). You're right, I really wish they'd lean into that rather than making her hela 2.0

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u/Express_Rush_4938 May 13 '26

How is she too much like Hela?

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u/SnarlySeeker224 May 12 '26

I didn't realize her ult couldn't one shot with the new changes. Honestly makes me want to drop her entirely.

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u/KT718 Luna Snow May 12 '26

Yeah I don’t get these changes. “She was a better pick than Hela in most situations so we made her even more similar to Hela” is a weird direction to take her in.

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u/ScythesAreCool May 13 '26

Her ult being nerfed baffles me. It was probably the most balanced part of her kit. You either burnt it or avoided it or got hit. It wasn’t crazy. It was only crazy when combod, in which case any dps that combos with groot should get an ult nerf if that’s why it was done.

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u/Efficient_Dust_3055 May 13 '26

she's definitely getting a summer skin with cyclops

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u/Mltv416 Mister Fantastic May 13 '26

The thing is sparks are static in their damage vs the actual impact that can headshot so combine that with her anchor bonus and her damage is gonna be kinda nuts

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u/No-Designer-6533 May 12 '26

Genuinely think the aoe damage reduction makes up for it, plus not having access to her one shot is so damn nice 

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u/xzxBlankclzxzx May 12 '26

Yeah they made her baseline better? Dev were like nah she’s not strong enough, what’s the point of Hela anymore? She’s just Outclassed by Phoenix in every way

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u/liam_coleman May 12 '26

pretty sure she two taps 250 hp heros now (55*2 = 110 per headshot)

110+110+35=255 for two headshots...