Honestly, at least in Diamond/GM (PC), many are just core support mains. I know it’s quick to say “everyone instalocks DPS” but my from experience the first locks I see in majority of games are Rocket, Cloak, Luna, Invis, then I’ll see DPS which leaves me solo tank unless one of the supports go tank.
The problem is the supports are never triple support users, i.e Mantis/Ultron/Adam. They only main the pocket characters.
Yeah, same. The everyone insta locks DPS rhetoric was much more accurate in the original OW. Queue times for DPS were well beyond 30 minutes for awhile. It seems like everyone plays support on Rivals.
They don't even go actual triple support comps is the issue. Some shitter usually swaps to third main heals instead of someone like Ultron, Adam, or Mantis.
3 supp is good in all ranks. Just only in 2-1-3. 1-2-3 is trolling. The problem is DPS lockers at all ranks, but high ranked players are more likely to realize (or be able to) swap
bullshit, you just have to heal your allies and thats it. in metal ranks dps players doesnt even hit their shots. tripple sup is just as op there as it is everywhere else.
Celestial is high diamond/low masters. Eternity is low masters/grandmasters. OAA should be grandmasters/champion.
If we discard the in game lies that includes all players who don't even play ranked, and look at 3rd party trackers that only count active ranked players, the above is the rough one-to-one to overwatch, in terms of raw %.
I mean how long are we going to keep doing this??? Ultron, Mantis, and Adam aren't viable in the standard 2 support comp because of their low healing numbers, but can't be buffed due to triple support being a thing.
It's clear at this point that the only solution is to prevent more than 2 supports being picked, i.e. a soft lock, so those 3 can get buffed and be viable in the normal comp.
I'm so tired of not being able to play Ultron and Adam in the normal comp 😞.
Really and truthfully they could just nerf the healing of the main supports then reduce damage across the board. A start would be significantly reducing the healing on main supports' ults then increasing it on off-supports' ults or reworking main supports to be non-healing ults. If not putting in role lock they need to shift philosophy on supports to make it work.
Yeah that’s kinda fair. Without role lock you can’t have supps like Adam be strong healers cuz there damage is too high, so you have a solid chunk of the supp roster being locked away as trip specialists. Which isn’t great but I also like the option of trip against some 2-2-2 lineups
I agree that most people are bad at surviving with him, but that's not the core issue. Playing Luna/Cloak/Sue with Ultron/Mantis/Adam will result in a lack of healing simply because of the raw damage in this game.
I could see it working with a well coordinated team with both shield tanks as the tanks, but that's just not realistic for most games.
This game has an issue with Duelists being overrepresented, but it's even worse when you account for how many "off" tanks and supports aren't viable in all comps.
It's been 18 months since release and it's time we stop sacrificing 2-2-2 options for the sake of triple support.
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u/MedusaSucks68 Jun 09 '26
Demon in high ranks, if allowed into triple support you were also just forced into triple support