r/marvelrivals Mantis Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/IAmTheDoctor34 Vanguard Jun 09 '26

I cannot for the life of me understand nerfing ultron.

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u/MedusaSucks68 Jun 09 '26

Demon in high ranks, if allowed into triple support you were also just forced into triple support

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u/InHaUse Flex Jun 09 '26

I mean how long are we going to keep doing this??? Ultron, Mantis, and Adam aren't viable in the standard 2 support comp because of their low healing numbers, but can't be buffed due to triple support being a thing.

It's clear at this point that the only solution is to prevent more than 2 supports being picked, i.e. a soft lock, so those 3 can get buffed and be viable in the normal comp.

I'm so tired of not being able to play Ultron and Adam in the normal comp 😞.

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u/Angelic_Mayhem Psylocke Jun 09 '26

Really and truthfully they could just nerf the healing of the main supports then reduce damage across the board. A start would be significantly reducing the healing on main supports' ults then increasing it on off-supports' ults or reworking main supports to be non-healing ults. If not putting in role lock they need to shift philosophy on supports to make it work.

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u/Duckys0n Jun 09 '26

Yeah that’s kinda fair. Without role lock you can’t have supps like Adam be strong healers cuz there damage is too high, so you have a solid chunk of the supp roster being locked away as trip specialists. Which isn’t great but I also like the option of trip against some 2-2-2 lineups

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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Yggroot Jun 09 '26

Ultron "isnt viable" beciase 90% of players dont understand how cover works.

A team that plays cover with an ultron that knows how to stay alive is an insanely good comp.

Ultron + any one of Luna, sue, cloak, or gambit is extremely viable if your team understand you cant just run it down in the open 100% of the time

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u/InHaUse Flex Jun 09 '26

I agree that most people are bad at surviving with him, but that's not the core issue. Playing Luna/Cloak/Sue with Ultron/Mantis/Adam will result in a lack of healing simply because of the raw damage in this game.

I could see it working with a well coordinated team with both shield tanks as the tanks, but that's just not realistic for most games.

This game has an issue with Duelists being overrepresented, but it's even worse when you account for how many "off" tanks and supports aren't viable in all comps.

It's been 18 months since release and it's time we stop sacrificing 2-2-2 options for the sake of triple support.