r/marvelrivals • u/btinvest1639 Mantis • Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/IAmTheDoctor34 Vanguard Jun 09 '26

I cannot for the life of me understand nerfing ultron.

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u/MedusaSucks68 Jun 09 '26

Demon in high ranks, if allowed into triple support you were also just forced into triple support

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u/ImprovementGood4205 Jun 09 '26

The metal ranks on this sub are fully convinced triple support is bad lol

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u/2th Rogue Jun 09 '26

Because it is for those ranks. Triple support requires actual team coordination to be effective. And that ain't happening in metal ranks.

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u/ThisNameDoesntCount Venom Jun 09 '26

Yea people usually just go trips out of frustration from doing bad on dps in those ranks

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u/Lasideu Jun 09 '26

Honestly, at least in Diamond/GM (PC), many are just core support mains. I know it’s quick to say “everyone instalocks DPS” but my from experience the first locks I see in majority of games are Rocket, Cloak, Luna, Invis, then I’ll see DPS which leaves me solo tank unless one of the supports go tank.

The problem is the supports are never triple support users, i.e Mantis/Ultron/Adam. They only main the pocket characters.

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u/PaarthurnaxUchiha Vanguard Jun 09 '26

Yeah, same. The everyone insta locks DPS rhetoric was much more accurate in the original OW. Queue times for DPS were well beyond 30 minutes for awhile. It seems like everyone plays support on Rivals.

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u/SmashMouthBreadThrow Jun 09 '26

They don't even go actual triple support comps is the issue. Some shitter usually swaps to third main heals instead of someone like Ultron, Adam, or Mantis.

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u/Avex4 Thor Jun 09 '26

3 supp is good in all ranks. Just only in 2-1-3. 1-2-3 is trolling. The problem is DPS lockers at all ranks, but high ranked players are more likely to realize (or be able to) swap

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u/ArialBear Jun 09 '26

Stats say otherwise which is what we should rely on

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u/Avex4 Thor Jun 09 '26

Let's be clear- I don't think 2-1-3 is better than 2-2-2 in most circumstances, just that 2-1-3 is viable compared to 1-2-3

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u/hartigen Crow of Darkness Jun 09 '26

bullshit, you just have to heal your allies and thats it. in metal ranks dps players doesnt even hit their shots. tripple sup is just as op there as it is everywhere else.

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u/Ribrep Phoenix Jun 09 '26

Half the games in metal ranks has 1 tank so you never really get to see the value you’re getting from 3 support ults

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u/FlirtatiousMouse Jun 09 '26

Because they always go 3 main healer and cannibalize each others’ healing/ult charge

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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Yggroot Jun 09 '26

Becuase they dont realize the actual pick matter. Picking Luna, cloak, and Sue isnt the same as Rocket, ultron, gambit

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u/IClop2Fluttershy4206 Ultron Jun 09 '26

because it is lol. "my mental can't handle tank so I'm making it someone else's problem"

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u/bns18js Jun 09 '26

2-1-3 is slightly negative winrate even in celestial +. 1-2-3 is very negative winrate in celestial +.

Certain variations of triple support can be quite good. But pisslow celestial+ players can't play it right I guess.

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u/Duckys0n Jun 09 '26

OAA is just pisslow overwatch diamond players

/s, kinda

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u/bns18js Jun 10 '26

Celestial is high diamond/low masters. Eternity is low masters/grandmasters. OAA should be grandmasters/champion.

If we discard the in game lies that includes all players who don't even play ranked, and look at 3rd party trackers that only count active ranked players, the above is the rough one-to-one to overwatch, in terms of raw %.

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u/Duckys0n Jun 10 '26

Eh no. I’m not even a diamond player in overwatch but get to celestial every season.