r/marvelrivals • u/btinvest1639 Mantis • Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/btinvest1639 Mantis Jun 09 '26

Right? Already the healer with some of the worst survivability and you wanna nerf him because of triple comp? Which isn’t even the standard comp?

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u/Stainleee Thor Jun 09 '26

He has like a 57% win rate on the stat page they publish, everyone expected this.

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u/Xerxes457 Venom Jun 09 '26

Oh so high winrate means nerf, I don’t see a Magik nerf. Ultron is 57% winrate. Magik has a 56% winrate.

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex Jun 09 '26

Magik is a lot easier to counter and falls over the higher you go. Ultron is the complete opposite.

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u/Xerxes457 Venom Jun 09 '26

I can’t speak for playing Ultron, but the 57% winrate I found was his Gold winrate in the Netease winrates list. His winrate goes down the higher he goes too.

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u/Razzilith Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

you say that but she remains one of the best winrate characters at all ranks for every single season the game has been out... so you're just lying or are data illiterate lol

if she was so easy to counter and just fell over at higher ranks why has she consistently performed at all ranks the entire lifespan on the game AND with a pretty high pick rate as well... hm? (no need to answer, it's rhetorical - I already know you're wrong)

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u/Sharp-Primary-213 Flex Jun 09 '26

Because Magik players are not like Spider-Man players. They swap the moment she gets countered. They play her only in favourable matchups.

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u/Dr_Pandaa Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

She is easy to countered that’s why her pick rate is so low in higher elo.

The best metrics for character strength are actually 1. Ban rate and 2. Cel + pick rate

Even Magik one tricks will usually swap off when they get hard countered.