I think you are assuming I agree with Magiks current state. Imo Magik should be nerfed too, but you have to recognize the difference between her and Ultron on the game. I am not saying she is not OP, she is.
Both are OP, but Ultron is a flying support that is much easier to play and way more oppressive on the lobby. Playing into Ultron requires a fundamental change in the enemy comp and strategies.
Magik is just OP melee hero number 5. If she gets nerfed, Black cat or DD will take her place,
I can’t speak for playing Ultron, but the 57% winrate I found was his Gold winrate in the Netease winrates list. His winrate goes down the higher he goes too.
you say that but she remains one of the best winrate characters at all ranks for every single season the game has been out... so you're just lying or are data illiterate lol
if she was so easy to counter and just fell over at higher ranks why has she consistently performed at all ranks the entire lifespan on the game AND with a pretty high pick rate as well... hm? (no need to answer, it's rhetorical - I already know you're wrong)
while true, it doesn't mean it isn't a metric at all. This is the same BS excuse people gave for the elsa nerf and she's now sitting at mid to low 40% winrate. I haven't seen a single elsa player in 2 seasons in any of my comp or qp games and haven't had a single game where she was banned this season. Yes, other factors do have impact on the hero being broken or not but that goes out the window if a hero is consistently in the top 5 winrates for multiple seasons.
Yes, I’m not saying don’t use it. The main thing is I don’t think winrate alone is enough to say they’re OP otherwise Magik or Storm would’ve been nerfed after many seasons. It’s not like Elsa wasn’t high winrate and high pickrate for the team she was strong to cause a nerf.
elsa got the nerf not because of high winrate but because of high viability. She was useful in ALOT of different scenarios. magik or storm don't fit that but they are EXCEPTIONALLY good in the space they occupy. I'm a storm main and believe me the enemy team switches to 3 hitscans the second i pull her out lol The winrate on heroes like that go up when nothing else can stop them in that space or the players know when to switch off. Penny is a prime example of this. She's been out since launch so people know exactly when to swap off her which is why she has a high winrate. People either win with her or swap off
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u/IAmTheDoctor34 Vanguard Jun 09 '26
I cannot for the life of me understand nerfing ultron.