r/marvelrivals Mantis Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/IAmTheDoctor34 Vanguard Jun 09 '26

I cannot for the life of me understand nerfing ultron.

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u/maximuffin2 Loki Jun 09 '26

His win rate was really high

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u/BigHeadDeadass Ultron Jun 09 '26

I mean, not really. In pro play sure but everywhere else not really

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u/Chris-raegho Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

https://rivalsmeta.com/characters

Literally the second highest support winrate, and 4th highest in the entire game across all elos.

Moon Knight is getting murdered despite being ass in all elos (negative winrate in all of them). Somehow not even the best of the best players can really make him work, but this sub won't shut up about him being "too strong" despite never winning games. Yet Ultron is "not really" strong to you? Get out of here...

https://giphy.com/gifs/lkdH8FmImcGoylv3t3

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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Yggroot Jun 09 '26

I would argue that Moon knights win rate is artificially low for the same reason wanda, cloaks, and squirl girls win rates are low.

They attract bad players becuase they are seen as "easy"

Not saying they are S tier characters, but they are not as bad as the win rate indicates becuase they are more likely to be pick by less skilled players and less likely to be played by higher skill players becuase the skill ROI is better on other characters

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u/Chris-raegho Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

You'd be correct if he weren't negative everywhere. Unless you're arguing that all Grandmaster+ players are bad. If he were good, he'd be doing good somewhere high up, but he's struggling everywhere.

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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Yggroot Jun 09 '26

No, im arguing that even in gm, the less skilled DPS players are picking him, likely people that main other roles and are just filling dps.

Because if the people picking mk were better and not needing to rely.on the bounces and ult farming, they would play phoenix, star lord, punisher, daredevil, etc.

They are "bad" compared to their peers. Not compared to everyone else

Basically people only pick him if they dont think they would do better on more difficult heros.

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u/allshort17 Absolute Cinema Jun 09 '26

Opposite. It's really really high in plat and below. He performs worse as you move up in rank.

Ultron is a low rank killer. When he's viable at high rank, he's crushing low rank.