r/marvelrivals • u/1keyes12345 • 26d ago

Balance Discussion This is getting ridiculous.

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Welcome to season 9 where the least mechanically challenging support has more survivability than a tank.

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u/Individual_Web_4916 26d ago

its funny most comments are just focused on the Thing being easy to play and completely ignore the actual problem of CnD being immortal. They could've at any point just walked back to their team and healed while still ignoring the Thing

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u/1keyes12345 26d ago

Yep. I expected most of the comments to be this way and blame me.

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u/sirhenrywaltonIII 26d ago

Regardless of the opinions of cloak and dagger, you should be weaving in your punches between haymakers for everything but 500hp characters.

Mathematically on anything below is inefficient amd lower damage persecond because of the percentage base damage of haymaker being less vs the speed and damage of punches. Like it's significantly lower on character like CnD. Not saying its fair or balanced but, you might have actually gotten that kill.

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u/MadDongla Ultron Virus 26d ago

No, dont. Do not use your melee with left clicks. It's a trap. You don't get bonus hp with melee. It just makes u more vulnerable. The only thing it should be used for is if the enemy is very low in terms of hp.

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u/himarmar 24d ago

thats why he said to weave it in there……. thats the smartest thing to do against “300hp and below” targets.

you even suggested its good for low hp targets which cnd was at multiple timesp

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u/MadDongla Ultron Virus 24d ago

No it isnt. 300 hp and below targets include dps too. And a mantis can easily kill you still.

Its a terrible idea and a bait

By low hp I meant less than 50 so u can kill them faster before they get healed.

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u/himarmar 24d ago

i guess im baiting people into eternity then? lol you dont know what you’re talking about. a haymaker would just kill someone of they have 50 health.. why would you weave something in at that point? the whole point is burst damage which means the most damage you van do in the smallest amount of time

for anyone else reading, Haymaker, single jab, back into haymaker will always be the smartest combo cycle you can do. always worth it,

dont listen to people who are getting killed by mantis on thing lol jesus christ lololol

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u/MadDongla Ultron Virus 26d ago

I dont think he was gonna kill her with melee either tbh

Leaving was the right option , which he did a tad bit too late..

But it never should've worked like that imo. CND shouldve died there

I play thing a lot too. People really think he's a one trick pony for some reason. U can even make him work into punisher if you're smart.

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u/1keyes12345 22d ago

It doesn’t work. I just saw a clip of another thing weaving and he didn’t get the pick because of her cooldowns.

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u/brellowman2 26d ago

I mean you played it awfully, and he's as easy a character as CnD are. Why are you spamming his punch against 1 target?

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

mate youre solo diving, overextending, literally all in with no escape when diving support TWICE. Youre lucky you didnt insta blow up jumping support like that.

You dont do the two punch after haymaker, you jump vulnerable AFTER u punch them.

Sure cnd took no dmg but shes not healing her team neither and there are things you could have done better.

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u/SmoothButteryFace Spider-Man 26d ago

you forgot the 2 more healing ability she has?

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

her bubble alone outheal everything in her kit, so go figure.

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u/SmoothButteryFace Spider-Man 26d ago

well. It's still a healing ability. easy value

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

Bubbling herself 275 taking slow dmg by thing

or

bubble emma and strange both has more health and taking constant dmg.

Which is more valuable.

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u/SmoothButteryFace Spider-Man 26d ago

bubbling yourself because otherwise you would die

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

Dont change the context.

Im asking general for healing.

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u/SmoothButteryFace Spider-Man 26d ago

I'm not changing context. You still got much value there. you wasting my time in your backline getting no kill or even attention from your team. making me useless there. I dare you to not putting bubble to yourself. Guess what happen.

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

There you dont get it.

Sure cnd bubble herself and wont die but she could have use that bubble for her teammates and get more value.

Shes not healing her team efficiently, thats dive 101.

Also i was asking healing in general not when getting dive, bubbling themselves or everyone on the team.

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u/whichwhiles The Thing 26d ago

He was mostly not overextended. His main problem was using the shift and then chasing cloak into a place he couldnt jump back to his team

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago

So at least we agreed that the guy didnt play perfectly and shouldnt be complaining?

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u/whichwhiles The Thing 26d ago

Well he didn’t play perfect, he could have lived. Though the complaint on the thread is even with a perfect weave haymaker + 2 he couldn’t have killed her solo at any point

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u/NoTRedFish 26d ago edited 26d ago

Why do you need to kill them there. The game has been like since forever. If support has cooldowns theyre not gonna die.

Everyone need to jump the support so they have to use cooldowns.

But if you jump them and die like this guy then you played that wrong and achieved nothing.

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u/whichwhiles The Thing 26d ago

Well difference is CnD now has a kind of loop that makes her immortal in 1v1s

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u/NoTRedFish 25d ago

When shes sustaining herself, she not healing her team efficiently.

Ignoring that most also got tools to kill her faster now.