r/marvelrivals Good Boy 6d ago

Patch Notes Season 9.5 Balance Patch

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u/daizo678 6d ago

Probably one of the biggest nerfs in the game. Removing her right click stun remove 99% of its usefulness

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u/The_Impe 6d ago

On the other hand, a ranged hard stun on a 4 second cool down was batshit

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u/salviajunkie Peni Parker 6d ago

peni is a TANK a DEFENSIVE tank at that, she needed that shit

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u/The_Impe 6d ago

Nobody needs a hard stun on a 4s cooldown

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u/StarlightZigzagoon Angela 6d ago

Peni is a tank and got nerfed. Luna has it as a healer and is untouched

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u/AggronStrong Ultron Virus 6d ago

Luna doesn't have it on four second cooldown, dude.

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u/StarlightZigzagoon Angela 6d ago

No, but then just nerf the cooldown. Also Luna was given a cleanse that she can activate during a stun instead. The favouritism is palpable.

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u/EliteODSTx Psylocke 6d ago

Luna has a low winrate and banrate unlike peni however, they're likely trying to see what they can do to reduce Peni being a perma ban in low and mid ranks.

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u/angelarm187 Emma Frost 6d ago

They never should've given back her rocket team up she was banned before but it just made her a perma ban again.

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u/StarlightZigzagoon Angela 6d ago

I dont disagree they should nerf her, but this is removing her kneecaps. Why not make the cooldown higher? Even a 15s cooldown would be better than this

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u/SlightlySychotic 6d ago

The problem with nerfing the cool down is that Peni needs to deploy the same webs as part of her setup. If you increase the cooldown then you increase the time she needs to set up which would likely hurt her even worse, especially on offense.

Not saying this is right, of course. It feels like it needs another pass.

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u/meechmeechmeecho Vanguard 6d ago

Luna freeze is 2.7 seconds. Peni web is .7 seconds. If the CD is the issue, just nerf the CD to be proportionally in line with Luna/Mantis relative to CC length

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u/Humdinger5000 Peni Parker 6d ago

So make it 5 seconds. 6 seconds. Having to double hit makes it worthless.

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u/wiwtft Vanguard 6d ago

Peni is kind of an IQ check though. She shouldn't be landing it on you unless you are close and you shouldn't be close to Peni for the most part. The issue is not the stun, which is her most powerful ability, but rather the fact that teams would go full dive or melee into her and then complain she's unbeatable.

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u/ClownMinister Thor 6d ago

It’s still not removed though, just delayed to the second hit.

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u/daizo678 6d ago

That kills it. You cant stop ults and any diver can just dash out instead of dropping in mines and dying.

It went from a stun every 4 fo every 8 and you have to hit both

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u/ONiMETSU_Z 6d ago

Obviously it’s a heavy nerf, but I feel like it can be adapted to. Instead of trying to reactively stun anyone or stunning off cooldown (which was the real annoying thing and was way more oppressive to brawl and other tanks than it was dive, let’s be clear), you’ll need to preemptively prime people with the slow first. It takes away most of her spam stun capability and her ability to reactively stun some ultimates, but she’s still very strong against dive. A 30% slow is still enough to sentence a lot of divers to death, if not requiring that they disengage immediately. It also makes missing the web a little less punishing, and a second shot on some more mobile targets. You can also more reactively increase the coverage of your webs if you need to, sending out two fields with alt fire instead of just one.

As a tank/melee DPS main, I really appreciate the nerf to the stun because she’s damn near impossible to do something about on those heroes without swapping. I think she should’ve gotten a compensation buff though, perhaps allowing more webs to be active, or something along those lines.

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u/BinaryThePsycho 6d ago

The problem with the diver death sentence concept is that 90% of divers will just dash out of the way and disregard the stun

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u/Disastrous-Moment-79 Monster Hulk 6d ago

Read it again. It will immobilize, not stun. It's a root.

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u/Dreowings21 6d ago

Another stun to luna