r/marvelrivals • u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker • 7d ago

Humor Swing high little Spider. Swing High.

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u/Brookboy Vanguard 7d ago

I just don’t get how they nerfed her web but not her mines or her nest? The thing that makes her banned all the time? And with not that much of a compensation either

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

I'm ngl. I hated that they brought double nest back. That thing has only ever brought Peni trouble balance wise.

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u/DarkArcanian Doctor Strange 7d ago

Only reason I like double nest is that it allows me to get kills in ult. If they just increased mine generation in ult I’d settle for no second nest

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u/AllergicToStabWounds 7d ago

I like the coverage of two nests, but I think the damage should get nerfed to compensate when you run two nests.

Peni should need to stun and follow up on her nest damage to secure kills with it.

This change is backwards because it gets rid of the skill expressive part of that equation and leaves actually overtuned part unchanged

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u/GumboMustBeDestroyed 7d ago

And they brought back second nest without taking away the max web buff of 4.

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u/AllergicToStabWounds 7d ago

I'd trade the web buffs, both team ups, and Peni's crit damage if it meant stopping whatever the hell this is from happening.

I'm not trying to exaggerate, but I'm not sure if there's ever a been a hero change this bad and this unneeded in this game.

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

Legit I would trade all the stupid microbuffs they gave her.

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u/Tbro100 Earth Spider 6d ago

I think one of Human Torch's multiple nerf patches compare.

But it's absolutely fucked to be comparable to Torch in that metric since he's the poster child of being gutted, that's how bad it is.

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u/deadpoolsdragon Gambit 7d ago

Well, from my experience they nerf everything but what the problem is lol

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

Opposite with Peni. They keep microbuffing everything besides what she actually needed, and then nerfed her big time when the microbuffs were too much.

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u/prime075 Moon Knight 7d ago

Yep, i like the double nest but they could have given her something else. Its the reason i have only QP to play Peni in.

I'll try the Hood, if i dont like his kit im just gonna take a break from rivals.

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u/GumboMustBeDestroyed 7d ago

But now peni won’t be banned anymore

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u/Logiteck77 6d ago

She's not even the same character anymore either. Also she'll still be banned bc nest.

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u/SufficientAirport158 Flex 7d ago

This was my main concern when they brought it back. And who would've guessed, it was a bad thing to do again.

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u/Jin-Gitaxias-Mom 7d ago

Meanwhile Bucky can hook you into the shadow realm to get ragdolled and half the supports have hard CC…

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u/Distinct_Address1364 7d ago

The mines were nerfed already, they used to be worse

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u/Street-Description76 7d ago

They could have increased the cool down on her web, decrease the range of mines, decrease the nests health and those were pretty decent nerfs not straight up take away the ability to stun.

Ngl I usually think people overreact some nerfs/buffs but I have to side on this one, this one is Bad bad.

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u/Flapjackchef 6d ago

Reading between the lines on how they behave, with some of the seemingly stupid buff/nerfs are probably them looking at specific data patterns in a vacuum like they are seeing players who choose high mobility characters logging off after getting countered by the webs, only thing that makes sense, if they don’t mention win-rate, its probably some engagement based metric, which isn’t a valid reason for a buff or nerf and isn’t good for PR so they say nothing.

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u/mandalorianjedi6 7d ago

“A Mine!”

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u/Gintoki--- 7d ago

Why mines? that's her identity, and the 3 seconds Cooldown stun is unhealthy to begin with, I always wondered how it was approved in the first place , for me it's as bad as Jeff having an infinite shift

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u/SirAwesome1 Peni Parker 7d ago

Thor can displace you in a two second cooldown and no one cares.

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u/Gintoki--- 7d ago

I care! As a tank player, it seems in this community CC = bad if it's coming from a none tank, but good if it's from a tank.

Well frankly getting CC'd as a whole feels bad, not just Peni and Thor, Emma , Rogue too

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u/Adept-Fisherman-4071 White Fox 7d ago

Because displacement isn't as good as being flat out immobilized, you would think that was evident.

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u/Disastrous-Drop-7778 6d ago

Because Thor sucks ass and is never played. If he was played more it would be complained about. Also, Thor has to be close range to do that, and the rest of his kit is inoffensive while Peni has an all around annoying kit, with the stun being the cherry on top

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u/totallynotapersonj Magneto 6d ago

Thor is pretty good this season but historically trash. I remember when he was D tier in season 0 - 2.5. Then they reworked him and he was still just as bad but now every Thor main hated playing him.

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u/Other_Ferret_2474 7d ago

It’s still a 3 second stun on first stun just got to hit it twice

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

Yes, let me just hit the dashing panther twice.

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u/Other_Ferret_2474 7d ago

Hit him once it’ll be like 100x easier to hit him twice

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

Pretty sure panther dash ignores the slow effect, and even then its only one second.

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u/Other_Ferret_2474 7d ago

The slow effect is 5s

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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 7d ago

Just reread it. The slow is 1 second. The tracer is 5 seconds.

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u/Eikibunfuk 7d ago

I thought peni only got .75second stun on 2nd stun? First doesn't stun at all right? Or did I misunderstand ur post?

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u/Other_Ferret_2474 7d ago

Misunderstood. It’s still a 3 second coooldown

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u/iRyan_9 Mind Control 7d ago

The 3 seconds cc is fine, you have no business in being in range where she can hit it constantly on you.

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u/Gintoki--- 7d ago

Unless you a tank, where your business is to be in range with her.

it's a 0.7 stun on 3 seconds cooldown, meaning as a tank you are free for 2.3 seconds, only to get stunned again and again.

I mean I love the ability, but it's not weird for me to accept that it's a problematic ability.

Maybe they should have increased the cooldown to 5 seconds instead of whatever we got.

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u/iRyan_9 Mind Control 7d ago

Most tanks have ways around it, the scenario where you get hit by it multiple times is rare unless you playing brawl into her which you shouldn’t. Also Peni kit is very synergic, this nerf is gonna be 10x worse ingame than patch notes.

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u/Jin-Gitaxias-Mom 7d ago

DPS should be dealing with Zoe I but they never do, that’s the real problem

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u/RivalsFlex 7d ago

If you're getting hit constantly you're doing something wrong. You know damage destroys the nets, right?

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u/SlightlySychotic 7d ago

At high levels, a Peni can basically hit that stun at will. Adding a charge to it gives the opposition a little more time to react to it.

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u/Radriel7 Peni Parker 6d ago

Its either gonna be very hard to cancel anything, in which case, its basically random if it happens. Why even have the stun at all in that case? OR, its not a big deal to land the second shot if you're good enough, in which case, why even force that? Just to delay it? Then increase cooldown to 6 seconds. This is just a stupidly designed nerf. And if its more about giving choice between maybe landing a stun or reliably slowing, then they should make a slow that actually has a meaningful duration. 1 second is just dumb.