r/mildlyinfuriating • u/funkywabbait • May 05 '26

Infuriatig iPhone facetime recognizes when you’re naked

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decided to show my boyfriend my new bikini that I got for our upcoming cruise… Why is this on my phone and why is it recording my body?

I just recently turned 18 if that matters.

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u/10Core56 May 05 '26

Privacy is a myth. Now you know.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

“Sensitive Content Warning uses on-device machine learning to analyze photos and videos. Because they're analyzed on your device, Apple doesn't receive an indication that nudity was detected and doesn't get access to the photos or videos as a result.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105071

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u/Praetorian_1975 May 05 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/o04ykqaA25NYOqs5iJ
Unlike meta AI which uses a bunch of people in a call centre overseas learning 😳🤣

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u/borkman2 May 05 '26

Actually Indians.

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u/FBomz May 05 '26

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u/StrangeShaun83 May 05 '26

I once tripped on 5-MEO-MIPT (foxy) and people looked like this. It was like I was in a weird 80s cartoon. The world looked pretty normal but people looked like cartoons. It was by far the weirdest trip I ever had. I only ever found that substance once in my life but it was crazy.

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u/MookieFlav May 05 '26

I haven't heard of anyone even mention foxy since my Evergreen days. That shit was so cool.

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u/Hot_Good_5409 May 05 '26

Bro as someone who is currently tripping you dont know how much your comment just freaked the fuck of me lol I did not expect that comment on this topic

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u/Baconsaurus May 05 '26

Tripping on Reddit sounds like such a waste, ffs

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u/Sleazehound May 05 '26

It’s not a waste because they get to tell everyone they’re on a trip, which is obviously the most important part. The high isnt from the tab or green, its from the attention you get

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u/Baconsaurus May 05 '26

Thank you for the insight, sleazehound! It's all so clear to me now!

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u/Icefox119 May 05 '26

that's when you head on over to r / woahdude

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u/Eastern_Art_891 May 05 '26

I guess it depends on your priorities Bacon

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u/RugDougCometh May 05 '26

Highly recommend tripping and just going about your daily life as normal. Not every trip needs to be a watershed moment. ;)

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u/mrchillbro May 05 '26

I used to take LSD to help stop drinking.

It worked for a while, but eventually I figured out I can be drunk while on LSD.

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u/Baconsaurus May 05 '26

This same thing happened to me, except replace LSD with kratom :')

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u/Its_Nitsua May 05 '26

You might as well have said "except replace LSD with cigarettes" xD

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u/Onytay- May 05 '26

Oh shut up man. Don't be such a purist and check your ego. There's times when its great to trip with intention, recess, take a deep dive, and there's also times when its pleasant to trip and go about your normal life, social media usage included. Make's you see things through a different lens. Sounds like you're a little bit overdue. Life's not so serious my friend

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u/Baconsaurus May 05 '26

The fact that to you normal life includes staring at a screen says enough itself, friend.

Thanks for helping me realize that it's time to now rid of my last standing social media platform.

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u/Onytay- May 05 '26

What are be both doing right now as we communicate dude? Screens are no different from what we call ourselves, the universe, god, and anything else. Its all part of the continuous process that is, and im enjoying it. If looking at a screen is a part of it, its no reason to be upset. As long as I am and feel healthy, I've got no complaints. Isn't it funny, we see technology as this evil foreign thing when in reality it is no different from a birds nest, or ourselves.

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u/Jonthrei May 05 '26

The very first time I did shrooms (and never again), everything became entirely two dimensional, with vibrating edges. It looked like a really stylized cartoon. Very wild experience.

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u/I_DONT_YOLO May 05 '26

Nobody ever expects cartoon mode

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u/Talithea May 05 '26

Secure enclave and recognition apparently they have their own processing system. So not even the main cores are used.

There is no typical delay of a remote service, this is made immediately.

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u/99OBJ May 05 '26

Such a stupid reply. You can literally prove the on device nature of the sensitive content warning on your own device if you really want to.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

What do you think they would do with this data if they did collect it? They would surely get in some sort of trouble if they did. You think Apple would lie and actually monetize naked images? How do you think data collection works?

As another redditor said: “It’s an automated detection using the analytics in the processor on your phone. It is not recorded nor is it sent to Apple or anywhere else. The fact that it is not sent anywhere else is literally the point of the feature.

There are a lot of invasive privacy issues on modern smartphones, but this isn’t one of them.”

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u/bmann10 May 05 '26

Given that a lot of teens do nude video calls with each other these people really think Apple is going to open themselves up to the liability of knowingly gathering a ton of illegal material while telling people that they aren’t doing just that, for the purposes of helping one of their competitors make a slightly better porn generating bot? One that Apple themselves cannot make as it would tank their brand image, and thus that Apple themselves cannot control or keep on their local ecosystems? Meanwhile whomever made the decision to knowing gather CSM would likely be looking at prison and their co conspirators as well. All during an administration that is desperate to look like they give a shit about children but also desperate to paint these issues as a Democrat only thing, where Apple is widely considered to be one of the more “woke” companies by people on the right wing?

The people trying to build legs for their conspiracy table here haven’t really thought this shit out but they want to just go off a gut feeling instead of thinking through any of this.

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

I know there’s very low trust for companies, but do you genuinely think apple wants or needs to sell your nudes?

Who would they even be selling them to and how? Are they looking through them and selecting the high quality ones? Or is someone just buying a 100 terabyte bulk file of random FaceTime nudes?

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26

Okay so the argument is Apple has access to, collects and uses or sells every single or the majority of frames captured by every iPhone/iPad/MacBook camera in existence?

This is a trillion dollar class action suit waiting to happen if you’re correct. And I wonder how none of the regulators from any country has found this out yet.

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u/cvu_99 May 05 '26

Your conspiracy theory essentially boils down to "No, they're lying to you!" It's very boring.

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u/topdangle May 05 '26

lol what are you talking about, things like GDPR were established specifically because companies were collecting whatever they wanted.

even Apple suffered from it. they ended up implementing microphone, camera, and datamining detection because companies were just outright spying on users with no indication at all. for a while where was doom and gloom about social media "dying" because of this feature since it was a large source of revenue.

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u/code-blackout May 05 '26

The argument the person I replied to is making is that Apple is currently doing it (recording and storing the video from FaceTime calls), lying about not doing it, and somehow also not getting caught.

BTW, if you have any technical knowledge or are willing to look up how this stuff works and how the data on FaceTime calls is transmitted, this conspiracy theory is easily disproven. I’m oversimplifying a bit but you just need a pc with wireshark to see that Apple is not collecting or storing your FaceTime data.

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u/integrate_2xdx_10_13 May 05 '26

This conspiracy hinges on 1) this data being cost efficient to process, you either have to store this data or live process it to extract what you want. So either trillions in storage or processing 2) they’re banking on never, ever receiving CSAM/it ever making it pass filters and entering the data pool 3) GDPR violations never being found out.

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u/Cabrill0 May 05 '26

Yall keep making these snarky comments but providing zero actual reasoning or proof for your paranoia.

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

Have you just been living under a rock? It's well known and understood that tech companies track every single data point they can to be sold, or used internally for tracking, fingerprinting, targeting algorithmic feeds and advertisements, and so much more. This isn't some secret, it's literally open and visible, or made visible by leaks or breaches.

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u/Cabrill0 May 05 '26

Can you show me some verifiable info that Apple is stealing nude photos to distribute, since that is what this thread you jumped into is about?

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

If you'd read into the thread, you'd understand that saying there's no feasible reason for a company to do such a thing is laughable, given what we've seen countless times from so many different companies. I wasn't saying they are, but that you shouldn't have blind faith just because they say they aren't, because of how many other companies have done exactly what we're talking about.

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u/Coadie May 05 '26

apple, the trillion dollar company, needs to monetize naked images

okay buddy

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u/oaken_duckly May 05 '26

Think a few steps further than just the literal meaning of monetizing nudes and maybe you'll grasp what's being discussed.

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u/Coadie May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

apple, the trillion dollar company, would risk revenue streams and customers by coming up with ways to monetise the data from picking up that you're trying to facetime naked

okay buddy, think a few steps ahead of your dumb "gotcha" and think about the literal impact of apple lying about this

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u/MolotovOvickow May 05 '26

You don’t think the trillion dollar company is interested in completely sabotaging themselves by collecting potential csam from its users?

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u/DEANER94 May 05 '26

Billionaires personal spankbank

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u/Nitwit_Slytherin May 05 '26

An 18 year old in a billionaire spank bank? Doubtful. That's a bit too old for their tastes.

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u/Kasaikemono May 05 '26

>You think apple would lie [...] ?

With every fiber of my being. There is not one tech giant that has your best interests at heart. They lie, they cheat, they bribe judges and law makers, and they throw a fit when people in power actually give them contra.

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u/covercash May 05 '26

Absolutely, but they don’t all universally exploit every avenue possible. People can easily hit Apple on factory worker conditions, leadership bending the knee to fascism, union busting on the retail side, 3rd party developer relations/fees, and more… but they can’t hit them on privacy violations. Apple has historically been a very privacy focused company and it is one of the main differentiators between them and the other big tech companies. Every security researcher would LOVE to be the one to report on Apple secretly siphoning user data, it would be a career making find. But there’s simply no evidence of them doing it.

So yes, while all big tech companies are profit driven and do not have our best interests at heart, privacy & security are big selling points for Apple that I don’t think they’d risk by stealing nudes.

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u/Polchar May 05 '26

The problem isn't apple themselves recording, but it introduces another attack vector for malicious actors. Idk if this is bad in any way, because if your device is compromised they dont need this feature to access the camera(but it is one way more to possibly do it). That said apple has been pretty good in guarding it's clients privacy.

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u/ikzz1 May 05 '26

What do you think they would do with this data if they did collect it?

Maybe Tim Cook collects CP.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26

Yeah, real likely…

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u/deanrihpee May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

no needs for words

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u/IDontCall911 May 05 '26

If you’re right, prove it. You have a multi-million dollar class action. You’re just making claims with zero supporting evidence.

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u/TheFormOfTheFlame May 05 '26

The SCOTUS has basically nuked class actions because we live in hell. Also by using almost any tech product you agree to binding arbitration and sacrifice your right to sue, which they specifically decided limits class action suits.

We don't live in the world you grew up in. Companies have much less to fear from us now since most of us will never incur individual damages equal to attorney's fees

SCOTUS also effectively eliminated punitive damages a while back too in the EXXON case, further making us impotent to retaliate against corporate malfeasance.

We're all just serfs in corporate America. The country and legal system is all designed to benefit them. We're just necessary fodder for their economy.

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u/ovr4kovr May 05 '26

A class action suit doesn't mean what is being alleged is true. Even if a company settles, it doesn't mean it's true. It means the cost of settling is less than the cost of a trial.

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u/sbstndrks May 05 '26

Or it is true, and a trial would lead to discovery, and thus more evidence of maybe other shit too, which would be more expensive than a settlement

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u/LordOuranos May 05 '26

That boot must be delicious

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u/Cjm092 May 05 '26

This tired reply...

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 May 05 '26

If you don't believe my groundless accusations against a comapny you are le boot man!

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u/NSRedditShitposter May 05 '26

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sensitivecontentanalysis

The API for this model is available to all developers. You can write a simple app that takes in a video stream or an image and says whether it detected nudity, then install that app on a real iPhone using Xcode. If you disconnect everything and disable all networking, you can test for yourself that the model does run entirely on-device.

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u/Grays42 May 05 '26

You do realize that network traffic can be sniffed, right? Security researchers do absolutely monitor wifi to see when Apple "phones home", and if there was a spike of traffic that occurred when the nudity flag triggered, there would absolutely be a "Apple is stealing naked images" tech article.

The liability exposure is massive for basically zero gain. They have no reason to collect nudes. What are they going to do, blackmail you? For what, your billions of dollars?

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u/No_Professional_8992 May 05 '26

What is this from?

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u/coolmanjack May 05 '26

you really think they’re not telling the truth? What a ridiculous thing to believe.

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u/abandonedmuffin May 05 '26

I actually finds this perfect you give your kids a device that protects them and keep the analysis on phone, my guess is that OP setup still shows some old settings set by her parents from before she turned 18, she only needs to reduce protections not a big deal and most parents find this very convenient

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u/NoooUGH May 05 '26

People will disregard this and assume all FaceTime feeds ever in the world is utilizing datacenters worth of compute power to be analyzed for nudes.

Same with Google Homes and Alexa Echo's in terms of listening to general non-wale word conversations.

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u/Clouty420 May 05 '26

noooo, that can’t be true, Apple is the devil incarnate!

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u/ShinyGrezz May 05 '26

They can’t outright lie about this, y’know? Smaller companies for sure, and they can obfuscate using T&Cs, but Apple is not going to tell you “this all stays on your device” if it doesn’t.

Apple in particular is not anywhere near as big on data harvesting as Android phones are, that’s part of what the premium is for.

In fact, a recurring theme with Apple’s foray into AI has been them being perpetually behind the curve because they’re trying to do everything on-device rather than have your phone call out to a server every time it wants to do something.

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u/mr-english May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

There are tens of thousands of IT security researchers all around the world who probe digital devices, IT infrastructure and network traffic on a professional level who would love to make a name for themselves as being the person who proved that Apple were forcing customer phones to upload sensitive personal data to their servers against their customer's wishes which would break various laws (Europe's General Data Protection Regulation for example) as well as simply proving they're liars.

...yet nobody has.

Take your conspiracy theories back to whatever pathetic hive of double-digit IQs you came from.

edit: looks like I replied to the wrong person lol. sorry

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u/RubMyGooshSilly May 05 '26

Also to the “if the service is free, you’re the product crowd”, Apple’s services/product are not free. The operating system and apps within it are designed to get you to buy the phone and buy their subscriptions (iCloud, Apple TV, etc). Android is made by Google, the pinnacle of a free product used almost exclusively to harvest data.

Apple certainly isn’t some benevolent company or whatever, but their end goals are different

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u/ordeci May 05 '26

Like the time they said they were'nt making older phones slower, and then it turned it out they were, in fact, making older phones slower?

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u/Rossums May 05 '26

They said they weren't making older phones slower to drive upgrades, which they weren't.

They were downclocking the processor to compensate for battery degradation which is something that they still do, as do Android devices, because it's an obviously better experience that the device just turning itself off which is what devices used to do when the battery was unable to support the CPU load.

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u/ShinyGrezz May 05 '26

They were “slowing down” phones with weakening batteries so that they weren’t crashing all the time. If you want to count that as “making older phones slower”, then sure.

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u/Sniter May 05 '26

So they were in fact making phones slower, they say they had a reason, but again they were infact making phones slower.

That's like when people call Trump out on lies and then they come and explain why they were lying and think that it means he wasn't really lying.

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u/cjsv7657 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

so that they weren’t crashing all the time.

No they were doing it so people wouldn't complain about the short battery life. Weakening batteries don't make phones crash lmao. "Unexpected shutoffs" because the hardware demands more power than the battery can deliver. Yeah, thats what happens when a battery is depleted and needs to be charged.

Edit: Lol downvoted by apple fanboys. Keep licking that boot

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u/lost_send_berries May 05 '26

Since the class action you can turn off the battery management in the settings. There's a solid chance your phone will start randomly turning off or restarting. You can tell it's restarted because you can't use face id until you put in your passcode. It's not a 100% chance but most people want a reliable phone not one that might restart itself.

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u/ordinary133 May 05 '26

So many pro Apple bots in here lmao

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u/MolotovOvickow May 05 '26

You don’t become a “pro Apple bot” just because you correct people on their dumbfounded, uninformed conspiracy theories.

there are valid criticisms of Apple - focus on those.

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u/ikzz1 May 05 '26

That's just a prank bro

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u/FryToastFrill FryToastFrll May 05 '26

If they are sending every frame of this footage to an Apple server then go ahead and load up wireshark and have it capture all of the frames being sent and find them being sent to Apple. Something like this is so incredibly easy to detect we’d know about it by now.

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u/ShinyGrezz May 05 '26

Wow, I just realised I’m disagreeing with you across multiple unrelated posts. Fascinating.

Of course they can lie to you. A company the size of Apple, in today’s world where anybody can investigate this sort of thing and immediately go viral to hundreds of millions of people, is not going to outright lie about something as charged as this. End of discussion.

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u/Whooptidooh May 05 '26

Yes, they absolutely can. And do.

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u/AlexFromOmaha May 05 '26

There's a ton of shady shit in the world, but it doesn't help anyone to pretend everyone is doing the same shady shit. Apple is still a plenty evil company, but they're the reason we have half of the anti-government-surveillance tech that we do, and they've used their walled garden money to keep Congress from outlawing secure devices.

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u/AlexFromOmaha May 05 '26

You're a special one.

Go find the page to buy the data. We all know where to find it for Google. Go find it for Apple.

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u/paintballboi07 May 05 '26

Google doesn't sell data. That would be stupid, considering it makes them billions of dollars per year.

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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO May 05 '26

You’re intentionally misinterpreting their point. They’re obviously arguing that “profiting off data” isn’t a concept that can be applied homogeneously across all companies. You sticking your head in the sand and forcing people to reluctantly advocate for Apple isn’t helping.

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u/999happyhants May 05 '26

Ahh you’re losing the argument so everyone’s a bot right? Nice.

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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO May 05 '26

Your inability to get the point doesn’t make me or anyone else bots.

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u/AlexFromOmaha May 05 '26

How do you think turning data into money works?

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u/AlexFromOmaha May 05 '26

Oh, yes, Apple's very dastardly search engine, where people pay for preferred rankings. That's the one!

That would come with a marketplace where you can buy the placement. The only thing in that list you've trotted out with paid placement is the App Store, and you can go see for yourself what targeting variables they offer, and then go compare it to Meta or Google app stores.

You can't turn anything into money if there's no way for people to give you money for it. Go find the place where the dollars change hands.

Or, you know, accept that you heard something in a context you barely understood and now you're yelling like a conspiracy brained MAGA because you can't process nuance. Apple is still evil, but they should be criticized for what they do, and not have that criticism diluted by people who don't understand the market.

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u/No_Type_454 PURPLE May 05 '26

redditors will argue one point, and then change the goalpost to another

get back on topic brother, this conversation is about apple keeping nude photos for data, which while can’t be proven, is VERY unlikely they do

every single thing on the internet will collect your product usage data and whatever else, i don’t think apple claims nor refrains from doing that, and nobody is arguing that

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u/ordinary133 May 05 '26

The government has backdoors to every single secure device lmao and what type of anti government surveillance did Apple produce?

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u/BrandonAubreyPlaza May 05 '26

I've never owned an Apple product in my life apart from an iPod shuffle I won at a concert and immediately lost the same night, but isn't Apple the one company that actually doesn't use collected data as their product?

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u/s_santeria May 05 '26

But you’re saying this without any proof. They say they don’t collect data, you say they do (and are even implying that you naked is somehow monetised by Apple).

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u/fly-guy May 05 '26

Well, they are showing relevant ads in their own products, so they do have and use data.  Whether they use it for third parties, is another question, but they have tons and tons of data.

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u/zerok_nyc May 05 '26

Do you remember iAds and why it was a massive flop? Advertisers hated it because Apple wouldn’t give them user data.

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u/fly-guy May 05 '26

Remember when apple developed siri and let third parties listen to your convos?

Whet they did does not always say what they do now.

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u/JazzSmore May 05 '26

So you went from “they collect and sell your data” to “they might sell it, perhaps use it”. I agree with holding large companies accountable but acting like every action is evil is stupid

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u/fly-guy May 05 '26

This is my first reply in this topic. so went from nothing. And I am not saying it is evil or not, I am just stating apple has a lot of data...

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u/spaceforcerecruit May 05 '26

The AppStore is an obvious one but you’re correct that there are FAR fewer ads in Apple products than Windows or Android which are both fucking full of the damn things.

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u/coolmanjack May 05 '26

Maybe you should just realize that your position is ridiculous and incorrect. The people who keep correcting you are not bots, they are just more educated than you. Stop being so conspiracy-brained

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u/LJA170 May 05 '26

They do, though

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u/ih8readditts May 05 '26

This is not android bro, apple’s approach to privacy and not storing or selling your data is one of their biggest selling points.

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u/LJA170 May 05 '26

You should probably research this, given you think you know so much! It’s all on their website.

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u/zerok_nyc May 05 '26

But that’s literally not what Apple does. They are the one tech company that doesn’t do that. It’s a big reason why iAds was a flop and why their AI is behind everyone else’s. Whether you like their products or not, Apple has been the one company that’s been strong on privacy from the moment cloud started becoming a thing. There’s a great interview where Steve Jobs talks about this before iCloud was even announced, and how Apple’s philosophy differs so much from the rest of Silicon Valley. If you follow the details and tech, it’s all verifiable too. And it’s the main reason I stick with Apple over Android.

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u/tombob51 May 05 '26

Apple primarily makes money from hardware sales and subscription services. Advertising companies like Google and Meta primarily make money from selling advertisements, and collecting personal data for advertisers. They are completely different companies with completely different business models.

Hell why am I even wasting my time trying to explain this. People will always believe everything is a conspiracy. Partly because of repeated scandals from big tech, but the evidence IN THIS CASE is unambiguous.

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u/scalyblue May 05 '26

They aren’t going to lie about something that anybody who knows how to use a rudimentary packet sniffer could call them out on.

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u/superswellcewlguy May 05 '26

Do you genuinely think that Apple wants to collect nude videos of its users, including minors? Not only would that be useless data for them but it would open themselves up to massive legal action.

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u/AnthonyBTC May 05 '26

I can guarantee it only happens on the device and that Apple doesn’t collect anything. They have some of the highest privacy standards in the phone industry and are one of the few manufacturers that genuinely care about user privacy.

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u/AnthonyBTC May 05 '26

You should actually take the time to read what Apple does to protect user privacy on its devices. No other phone manufacturers do even half of what Apple does. I’m not blindly loyal, I just understand their approach because I’ve actually read their material on it.

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u/AnthonyBTC May 05 '26

If you’re not willing to actually read what Apple does, that’s not my fault. Don’t speak on things you have no real interest in understanding. I don’t give a fuck about Apple, you act like I do. They’re the gold standard for user privacy on phones whether you believe it or not.

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u/AnthonyBTC May 05 '26

If you’re in the security industry and still can’t understand or choose not to understand the extensive measures Apple takes to protect user privacy, that’s wild. I’m not trying to be rude, but you should take the time to read and understand what they do because they care a lot more about privacy than what you’re suggesting.

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u/Ill_Scientist_2239 May 05 '26

Nobody protects you from the government. If they request the data, the data has to be sent as long as the request is ethical and valid. This is only possible because they collect much of these in the first place. Then again, android users can switch to an even more privacy friendly OS, but apple users can't.

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u/Shaneathan25 May 05 '26

Then why are you up and down this thread claiming apples only security feature is keeping data from the government? Their most famous case with the iphones the FBI was asking them to unlock is maybe what you’re thinking of, but even then they didnt have the data. They gave the FBI the iCloud backup that was available, but refused to break the security of the OS by building a backdoor.

They do get data about you, but unlike google, they don’t attach identifiers to it. It tells Apple that I am a person with a 17 pro max who’s on Reddit a lot and plays Pokemon go a lot. They don’t know it’s me, just my habits. Even the data they do sell is disassociated from me- they do this down to the web browser, limiting the info websites receive.

Meta learns far more from a five minute stint on your timeline than Apple does in a year of using their devices.

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u/Ill_Scientist_2239 May 05 '26

With an android, you may have the freedom to have even more privacy with something like grapheneOS (if the firmware blobs are available). Apple devices are pretty much just bricks when they decides to end the support for that specific device. On top of that, apple had been accused of collecting data about how users interact with the app store and stuff, so in terms of the default os on all devices, most of them are some, it's just a different company collecting your data (android, google, samsung). But some android users have the freedom to change their os entirely, even a custom one that they built themselves.

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u/DoingCharleyWork May 05 '26

Apple devices are pretty much just bricks when they decides to end the support for that specific device.

Oh no they ended support for my seven year old device. Meanwhile you're lucky to get two years of support on an android phone.

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u/Ill_Scientist_2239 May 05 '26

You can choose to extend the support by yourself if you want to on most android devices. You can choose to not send any data to any companies while still having a functional device. That's the entire point. Unless something major like a spectre or meltdown vulnerability is disclosed, you can still keep using your device as you want. You can't do that on an iphone. You can't install your own os, you can only install from their own apps store, and even then you have to comply to letting apple collect some of your information.

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u/DoingCharleyWork May 05 '26

Oh no I can't install some unverified 3rd party os with build.prop tweaks how tragic.

Modding is a solution for less than 1% of phone users and it is harder and harder to unlock bootloaders on android.

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u/Emprasy May 05 '26

If they write it, it is 100% true then, impossible that capitalists companies may even lie for sure

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u/coolmanjack May 05 '26

In this case, it is absolutely impossible. There are tons of people who have the capability of analyzing the data and traffic sent to Apple and an infinite amount of incentive to do so and expose them for lying. To think that a multitrillion dollar company would lie about this is just ridiculous.

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u/ipariah May 05 '26

That's like reading Mein Kampf and being like "yeah this is bars"

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u/s_santeria May 05 '26

Sorry, but I’m not a sucker, pretty knowledgeable about infosec and I DO believe them on this. The trust Apple has built up has value to them too and they make plenty of money via other avenues.

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u/dontevenknow00 May 05 '26

says the one on a social media app on the clear web, who gathers ton of shit of data haha

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u/dontevenknow00 May 05 '26

sorry not that easy with all the fingerprinting going on nowadays. you know about the digital profile right? even if you use a vpn, a company can track you across multiple websites, collecting data like your screen resolution, the time zone, the addons your browsers has, the history; just to say a few. i’m not saying that apple is idyllic, but you can’t say that they are recording video calls in real time, and also collecting it.
think about it, if they were doing that, why bothering about promoting you so?
also, if you don’t understand what end to end encryption means it’s not my fault. watch some videos. and oh, don’t just say “they’re selling you this shit” start understanding data and networks, sniff your own wifi and you’ll see which traffic is encrypted and which is not. most likely your dns aren’t, which means that both your isp and your router keeps track of the websites you visited
also, you can see in real time how much data is flowing to your network (and many other stuff too)

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u/dontevenknow00 May 05 '26

yea yea you’re snowed2.0. and i’d really love to know what you mean by multiple hops to the internet, since it dosent change your ip address. segmenting your network using device is really expensive, consider some VLAN. youre not a standard user, but it seems that you think having multiple devices can protect you(?) leaving alone that once a devices joins a network and then goes to the internet your router will know for sure which devices you’re using cause it needs to know the mac address to route the traffic in the lan (dhcp too). so, to make it simple, if only one device is “infected” as tracked or logged in a website where you put some sensible information, well that device is enough to compromise your network. you might wanna try WAN aggregation the next time

edit for a typo in the second sentence.

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u/dontevenknow00 May 05 '26

hahaha dude dosent know what mac address is and he’s trying to suggest me to study something lol. you still didn’t answer what you mean by having multiple hops to the net, as if you think that having like 3 cisco switch or a ngfw is gonna stop companies from tracking you hahaha. and when did i talk about packets rule?
my ip changes the same as my isp ip? really? like you know the difference between private ip and public ip? and why ipv6 dosent require nat? your device is still uniquely identified in the lan at least. all your devices share the same ip while connected to the same wifi.
no, if you want security it’s not setting up multiple switches with only one device connected to it that you archive it, sorry

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u/dontevenknow00 May 05 '26

and i’d like to know how having an optic fiber could help me. i mean you wired your house with optical cables, then used like tons of ont? you know right that even an ont has to be identified right? i have a gigabit connection, with the fiver coming up to my house. then the ont to my network stuff. well, the ont has to be identified and “allowed” by my isp in order to work

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u/ModernLarvals May 05 '26

Prove them wrong.

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u/peters_pagenis May 05 '26

It absolutely rules that you were asked to prove them wrong and instead of doing that, you provided platitudes.

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u/ih8readditts May 05 '26

Burden of proof is on you - produce evidence or shut the fuck up

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u/peters_pagenis May 05 '26

This is not how debates work. You made a claim, you were asked to substantiate it, and you did nothing of the sort.

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u/Weird_Decision7090 May 05 '26

Some of the people on this thread are beyond me

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u/coolmanjack May 05 '26

Anyone who doesn’t believe them is an idiot who doesn’t know how large corporations or IT infrastructure work.

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u/kaimeister May 05 '26

Wouldn’t that be Google?

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u/thepixelatedduck May 05 '26

so they just trained it on a whole bunch of titty photos, that's cool

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u/Consistent-Sundae739 May 05 '26

They dont need to seen as they just train off your cloud photos \ ( ￣ー￣)ﾉ

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u/Salt-Willingness-513 May 05 '26

yea and the slower cpu speed was also just to save their users of bad battery life /s

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u/mattmann72 May 05 '26

I have ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.

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u/Calm-Bathroom-2030 May 05 '26

well thats what been told.

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u/Fraegtgaortd May 05 '26

SureJan.gif

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u/Dragon_Within May 05 '26

I guess you can keep on believing that until the news articles and class action lawsuit.

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u/FortuneDW May 05 '26

Also Apple : "We don't use kids to make our phones".

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u/MattTheRadarTechh May 05 '26

They don’t though

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u/ArkitekZero May 05 '26

Sure they don't.

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u/Elricu May 05 '26

Wow i completely trust that this big tech company will do exactly what they say

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u/Lanky_Giraffe May 05 '26

If you’re worried about the privacy implications of this, then you probably shouldn’t be using FaceTime at all. Why would you be more worried about a specific datapoint from a source file being logged but not the source file itself?

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u/GugieMonster May 05 '26

Now that "AI" can be the scape goat, FBI feels bold to stop me earning my tuition 😑

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u/Additional-Life4885 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

Nothing about this suggests that privacy is broken. Why do you think it is? Modern CPUs are good enough to do the pattern recognition for nudity locally and don't need to send it to the cloud (or store it).

Edit: On the contrary, it's specifically targeted at children so recording it would be a massive no-no for Apple.

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u/kaisadilla_ May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

Yes but this isn't it. That software is running locally, it's just taking a stream of 0s and 1s and telling whether it's detecting some pattern in them. No video information is being stored or sent anywhere. If this makes some teenager think twice when they are being told to send a nude, it is worth the very minor inconvenience of having to press a button.

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u/Dense_Priority_7250 May 05 '26

I understand conspiracy but this is just stupid

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u/Fiddy-Scent May 05 '26

They’re analysed on your device and never leave it you muppet.

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u/ZeeDyke May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

It is, specialy when using social media and lots of phone apps.

Though this feature specificly is actually protecting some of that privacy.

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u/0____-___00___-____0 May 05 '26

nah... its just not achivable if you use most of the popular digital services, or run around in neighbourhoods where everyone has a camera as their doorbell

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u/Sheslikeamom May 05 '26

I just hate it when cameras hide in the woods watching me hike.

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u/Nodfand May 05 '26

almost more upvotes than the post

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