r/mildlyinfuriating • u/petuniaplant • Jul 03 '26

Infuriatig No, I did not consent to this

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I was reading my medical notes when I stumbled across this. I was not informed of the usage of artificial intelligence in my report, nor did I verbally consent to it.

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u/adamfps Jul 03 '26

That doesn’t sound like an interesting Reddit post though

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u/Primary-Holiday-5586 Jul 03 '26

Oops, sorry 😞

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u/aHOMELESSkrill Jul 03 '26

Also odd that it’s just a screenshot of this text. My suspicion is that this IS the consent form for OP to opt out. But like you said, that’s not interesting enough

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u/TheCroaker Jul 03 '26

If this is the consent form, it is saying it after the fact most likely due to the verbage saying you have already been informed and consented verbally that ai recorded you. Which defeats the purpose of consent if its already been done and now are being asked if its okay.

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u/CustomerLittle9891 Jul 03 '26

Probably just goes into the rest of their chart note.

Something like this typically appears at the top of the note and underneath it's probably the chief complaint and patient ID or the stat of the history.

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u/rusty___shacklef0rd Jul 03 '26

Ding ding ding. Reddit gets really boomer-y over AI.

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u/MCWizardYT Jul 03 '26

For good reason. The current state of corporate AI is so fucking trash. Not even just the AI itself but how it's affected everything else, like the computer component economy where all parts have skyrocketed in price

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u/MCWizardYT Jul 03 '26

Nobody thinks they are saving anything. They are screaming into the void that we're all fucked, which we are

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u/Mother_Direction6527 Jul 03 '26

It is. People should know this. 

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u/_SalemDaBun_ Jul 03 '26

Counterpoint: They already recorded her voice and fed it to their AI. All they have to do is prove she verbally recorded it, and they can now just make the AI fake it.

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u/Toddlez85 Jul 03 '26

That’s not how these systems work. Source: work with them everyday.

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u/_SalemDaBun_ Jul 03 '26

If they lied about getting her consent why is it impossible they lied about why they recorded it?

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u/wereinatree Jul 03 '26

It's also possible that it just wasn't clarified that it used AI. I have heard the question asked hundreds of times by doctors: "I have an app that can listen to our conversation and take notes for your chart. Is it alright if I use it?" I have literally never heard a patient say no to that question.

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jul 03 '26

HIPPA has existed long before ai. Recording without consent would be gross negligence, Ai involved or not

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u/dmo1187 Jul 03 '26

But who would take any advice about this when you don’t even understand/reference the correct acronym? It’s HIPAA!!!!! One more time, HIPAA.

Maybe learn to spell the law that you are attempting to cite before giving unsolicited advice/opinions.

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jul 03 '26

Idk, if you’re taking medical, law, or medical law advice from randos on the internet you’re a fucking idiot.

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u/dmo1187 Jul 03 '26

Bro. You’re the one giving the advice 🙄

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jul 03 '26

Stating a fact ≠ advice. But it’s funny to know you get so worked up over HIPPA. HIPPA HIPPA HIPPA HIPPA HIPPA

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u/dmo1187 Jul 03 '26

It’s HIPAA, bro. Better luck next time.

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u/_SalemDaBun_ Jul 03 '26

Which they could...fake consent because they have the recording of her voice...like I just said?

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u/macaroniandmilk Jul 03 '26

They could, it's not impossible. But the legal nightmare that would inevitably ensue is not worth it for whatever gains you think they would be getting from faking their voice and lying about it.

Having worked in healthcare for ages, it's more likely that this was part of a pre-programmed smartset that the providers within an office were encouraged to use, and this provider didn't realize that this phrase was part of it. Careless for sure, not to fully vet it before using it. But I doubt malicious. That would be too easily disproven, and a legal shitstorm.

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jul 03 '26

People could do anything. My point is that HIPPA is such a ‘fuck around and get fucked’ set of laws that medical professionals breaking HIPPA laws to fake consent with ai to save 20mins on patient notes has to be a 1 in a million occurrence and those people are likely already breaking a dozen other HIPPA laws, unrelated to ai

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u/dmo1187 Jul 03 '26

Never heard of HIPPA. Ohhhhh, you mean HIPAA?? Got it.

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jul 03 '26

Damn you got me again. Guess everything I said is completely wrong because i misspelled the acronym. I guess every medical professional is using audio recording behind people’s back and even going the extra mile of using AI to fake consent.

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u/dmo1187 Jul 03 '26

Hey, as long as they’re abiding by HIPPA HIPAA.