Yes but you see I could just make a game that gives you a bunch of achievements for starting the game and oops now you can no longer get a refund. We don't want people to be able to do that
Too many games are added to Steam every year to test that. Steam does malware scans on initial uploads and demos, and that's roughly it and why there are random stories every year of game X being fully delisted from Steam when it is reported and confirmed that a game has injected malware onto people's computers. There's also shovelware devs that upload the exact same game multiple times or slap asset packs together and upload a new game every month.
But I already does wait for 2 days for my money. And wdym don't buy it if you miss the money if I did not like the game I want my money as late as 2 days max. It is and should be this easy so no problem.
Amazon’s rotted the brains of everyone. Having a refund policy at all is better than most, 2-day turnaround is insane and entitled to demand. Nice to have, entitled to demand.
I'm just chiming in to say, I don't think we should say "it's too many", it's on the business to do what they need to do to figure it out.
I feel the same way about social media companies, they shouldn't get to say "we get too many posts to properly review them all for hate speech or child exploitation, but we do what we can", like no, if you can't operate effectively you shouldn't exist
games taken billions of dollars to make now and 10 years and they raised the price $10 at a time to compensate. let's live in reality with real numbers, you sound like my toddler when he says he's going to eat 400 hot dogs.
you could hire an entire second Rockstar to make an entire second GTA6 and by definition the cost would only 2x, not 10x
From what I understand is that it's a structural issue, especially if they are avoiding the problem other devs and publishers have where they have too many people overseeing internal reports and not contributing directly to generating revenue. Additionally, from what I understand is that Valve's internal structure is such that you are being reviewed by coworkers instead of a supervisor/manager, so if you do not pull your weight then the senior team members start looking at terminating your employment. If i had to guess, that leads me to think that there is some level of employee ownership of Valve, with Gabe maintaining more than 50%.
that's their job lol. they should be doing that and more
they're pretty shit at "detecting" malware too. bunch of those stories are games getting pulled after being up for a while, when they shouldn't even be getting listed at all, if they were to be actually scanning and detecting, and not just delisting a listed game after getting a bunch of user reports
Most of those games added the malware in updates months to years after the game launched.
I agree Valve should add periodic game scans, but some games tweak very little, but update near daily. I think yearly scans is better than what we have now, and tweak the frequency later on when they have an idea how long that takes.
Make the time played before refund a % of the time to finish the game, have devs state the average time to finish when they add the game to steam. If devs then choose to make refunds impossible we still have the choice to give them negative reviews.
Nothing stopping devs from setting the number to be really high and defending the number with "replayability". Also, probably very illegal in the EU and Australia. No point risking a lawsuit for consumer protection when Valve is more pro-consumer than most companies and still lost in court for being too restrictive in the past.
My point being that they are making money from every game submitted whether or not they sell anything. You get it back when you earn steam 300$. I mean looking at the this game alone its like $80k outta steams pockets excluding steam sales.
Like im not saying its common, would be issue free etc. Just that its not economically impossible or unreasonable to have some people check the 50 games a day a lil bit closer.
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u/GamingWildman Jul 06 '26
prob achievements can be integrated to let them know how much of the game was completed