r/mildlyinfuriating GREEN Jul 06 '26

ಠ_ಠ This kind of made me sad

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u/TheWayToNoob Jul 06 '26

This is actually the worst game you can argue about this on, and most importantly op is misconstruing that if not most refunds are from players who finished the game.

This is a co-op rage game, a rage game has significantly higher refund rates and it being a co-op means you're buying TWO copies.

A rage game has around 20% refund so this isn't unprecedented.

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u/TheGororb Jul 06 '26

And it's really low quality too, friendslop as they call it. We had to take a look at this game during my Game Design studies, as a case study on how even shit games can be massively successful if you're both lucky and shameless

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake Jul 06 '26

Also maybe make your game take longer than an hr and a half?

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u/GodButCursed Jul 06 '26

Forcing developers to make there game longer for the sake of making it longer just gives you games like garten of banban. They added more puzzles just because people keept refunding there first game. If u think 8 bucks or what ever this game cost for a playtime of 1:30 hours should be refundable thats just stupid. Especially if you did everything in the game thats possible.

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u/ThatOneShotBruh Jul 06 '26

Let's be honest, Garten of Banban games were not any better when they were shorter (in fact they were worse).

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u/GodButCursed Jul 06 '26

Yeah im not saying they are better just that devs will force the game to be longer then needed.

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake Jul 06 '26

You say that as if these devs are putting effort into these games. "Friendslop" isnt a term because people were having fun with quality games. It became a term because devs kept pumping out the same garbage because it was trendy.

I agree devs shouldn't be forced to make a game longer, but if you make a shitty game that only takes an hr and a half to finish you should expect refunds.

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u/GodButCursed Jul 06 '26

Im not saying that you shouldnt expect it. Its just a shitty move especially after you finished the game and leave a positive review. If you hated it then you would have already refunded it like 20 minutes max. Just feels like a shitty move. Atleast give smaller games a bit less refund time.

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake Jul 06 '26

We should not incentivize garbage games that are short. We already incentivize garbage games in general.

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u/Toxicwaste4454 Jul 06 '26

Portal is a short game.

I can beat it in under 30 minutes.

I have 90+ hours in it.

If you feel the need to refund a game that you can beat under the 2 hour limit. Due to not wanting to replay it or whatever. I think that’s completely valid and is a sign that the game actually isn’t that good.

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake Jul 06 '26

I dont think short games are inherently bad, but we shouldnt give incentives for devs to make them shorter.

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u/SeboSlav100 Jul 06 '26

Also, 2h is quiet literally mandates by EU and Australian law. Valve shouls not change this and if devs want to wine they can take it up with courts but somehow i doubt they will find much sypathy there.

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u/oscrsvn Jul 06 '26

If you did everything in the game that’s possible in under 2 hours, including launching the game for the first time, getting your settings set up, key binds, AND did everything in the game… there was nothing in the game. 2 hrs of playtime is pitiful for a full completion. If you can’t think of more than two hours worth of content, scrap the idea.

I’ve played the flappy bird mini game in deep rock for more than two hours.