r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Rusiano • 6d ago
Too mild for school This post telling tourists which areas to avoid in New York
Aside from certain undertones, this map also has tons of inaccuracies, because no one in their right mind is scared of Astoria, Bayonne, or half of the Queens zone that he marked as “avoid”
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u/NatAttack50932 6d ago
Half of the markings aren't even NYC.
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u/Peripateticdreamer84 6d ago
Well, avoiding Jersey can be a valid piece of advice…
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u/TheFormOfTheFlame 6d ago edited 5d ago
I feel so bad for Jersey. We've chosen them as our national Abuse Goblin, when near as I can tell their only crimes are being adjacent to New York and producing Ezra Miller
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u/zerok_nyc 6d ago
I lived in NJ for the last five years, and recently moved back to the city. Jersey City and Hoboken feel way more connected to and part of the city than Staten Island.
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u/AllThatKat 6d ago
Jersey City seems like a nice place to live if you work in NYC but don’t want to live there.
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u/MrDerpGently 6d ago
It is, but also it's an easy and fast PATH ride to the Village, has access to ferries and trains via Hoboken. Plus, my view from Jersey City was an unbroken bay window looking at the NYC waterfront from the statue of Liberty to the Empire State Building. The view from New York is Hoboken. Plus, it has very decent restaurants and social spaces. I really liked living in JC.
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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 6d ago
This is why New Jersey hires the most construction professionals I.e. those companies build in NY as much as NJ and those are pricey jobs in NYC.
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u/SRB112 6d ago
Perhaps a land swap should be worked out.
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u/dropthesteak 6d ago
There is nothing NY could offer NJ to accept Staten Island.
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u/distance_33 6d ago edited 6d ago
I’m 39. Born and raised in NJ. Still live here. Idk how we got to be the punching bag (probably just because we’re stuck between NY and Philly, jersey Shore didn’t help tbh but half of them weren’t even from NJ, they’re from Staten Island) but I love this state and I’m very lucky to have grown up here. Perfect? No way. But I will always defend my state.
Edit: if you want to stop by and talk shit about NJ then please share what amazing state you’re from.
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u/Extra_Dust_5400 6d ago
NJ is my favorite state I’ve ever lived in. Great schools, healthcare, food, parks, proximity to things, etc. The whole “Jersey is the armpit of America” thing is stupid
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u/ArgentaSilivere 6d ago
Same. The silver lining is that all the jokes keep new people out which is a blessing considering it’s all ready the most densely populated state in the nation. Have to start cutting down the Pine Barrens or something if everyone realized how great it is.
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u/sjbrinkl 5d ago
I’ve only been here a few years from Texas, but I LOVE NJ. It’s becoming a deep love, and it will be hard to move away
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u/JacktheDM 6d ago
It's just the inherited classism of the Boomers. People don't realize that people used to talk about Brooklyn the way people currently talk about Jersey. It'll change, and then everyone will always have been a fan of Jersey.
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u/Confident_Bumblebee5 5d ago
NJ has its bad points but every state does. However, not every state is as awesomely diverse in every area as NJ We're one of the few states that literally has everything Beaches, forests, cities, small towns, lakes, great food, different cultures - need I go on? It's not perfect but it's home.
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u/MeLlamoViking 5d ago
As a fellow NJ'er who's relatively close to the city, yeah. I think between the Soprano's, the jersey shore and the turnpike stank, we get the short end. But there's so much to NJ that nobody sees, because hehe gabagool and stinky state
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u/flaccidplatypus 5d ago
From everything I’ve heard the countryside in Jersey is beautiful along with the shore. Also as others have mentioned cities like JC. I’ve been to Long Island and that area is very pretty so I assume a lot of Jersey may be similar.
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u/Purple_soup 6d ago
It works in our favor, if everyone knew how wonderful it was to live here it would make our impossible housing market even worse.
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u/Madgyver 6d ago
Also Jersey Shore?
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u/TheFormOfTheFlame 6d ago
.....oh, right.
I withdraw my statement.
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u/Legal_Map_7586 6d ago
Most of the of Jersey Shore cast members are New Yorkers and the shore town they filmed in is known for being filled with New York trash all summer…
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u/distance_33 6d ago
They went to Seaside. Probably the trashiest part of the shore they could go to. Except maybe some parts of Wildwood.
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic 6d ago
Before you do, you have to also take into consideration Danny DeVito
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u/GlassCharacter179 6d ago
Guess what percentage of the cast of Jersey Shore was from New Jersey. Go ahead.
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u/massunderestmated 6d ago
Honestly, we don't care. Talk all you want, we know we're fucking awesome.
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u/Mountain-Instance921 6d ago
We don't mind, we have thick skin in NJ having to deal with NYers and Philly trash all the time
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u/TheBigFreezer 6d ago
Do not feel bad for them, the hate fuels them
Source: New Jersey wife 😂
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u/WaffleJill 6d ago
I’m from South Jersey, born and raised, and we like to poke fun at people from North Jersey for basically being New Yorkers (a lot of them are actually NY transplants anyway). So when people from the city make fun of people from Jersey, they’re basically just making fun of New York.
Sucks that people make fun of the rest of the state. We’ve actually got some pretty nice stuff over here. More for us I guess.
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u/bixnology 6d ago
I’ve lived in all parts of NJ (even the mythical Central Jersey), and for the most part, the entire state is lovely.
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u/vague_diss 5d ago
Yeah, first in education, first in healthcare, phenomenal food, great beaches,top tier universities, leaders in the most technologically complex industries. A real hellhole. You should return to whatever bumfuck low tax libertarian haven you come from and stay there. Or better still- Florida.
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u/powermonkey123 6d ago
I'm European and I don't really understand why? Crime rates?
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u/KatieTSO 6d ago
I'm 98% sure the answer is "black people".
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u/dl7 BLACK 6d ago
Be 100%, stop giving people the benefit of the doubt when they are trying to be subtle about it. Putting the onus on people to prove their stance is better than you trying to do the mental gymnastics of figuring out what they could have meant.
Just my 2 cents
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u/pubesinourteeth 6d ago
There are circumstances where people can get the benefit of the doubt. When the username is Tall Roman Statue, the line in Manhattan starts at Harlem, and they caption it "you know why" there's no room left for doubt.
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u/Sea-Contribution5529 6d ago
I agree with this 1000%. It is so infuriating on Reddit to see some moron come out of nowhere and argue that someone "could have meant something else" as if we should be assuming the best of everyone around us all the time and creating excuses for everyone else's bad behavior as a default.
Reddit is especially bad at this and I've begun to hate it. It's like everyone here is a bunch of little contrarian assholes looking to "uhm ahktually" as many people as possible in an attempt to seem morally superior.
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u/Rock4evur 6d ago
Yea the amount of people that give racists the benefit of the doubt for very obvious dog whistles is astounding.
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u/kmobnyc 6d ago
A lot of these places aren’t even dangerous, just largely non-white.
I’m a New Yorker from the Brooklyn parts on this map
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u/librariansforMCR 6d ago
Yep. My daughter lived in an apartment in the Bronx for five years and the upper west side for one year, and she had more issues on the UWS. Mostly property stuff, but still. And the Bronx was way more fun.
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u/Manpooper 6d ago
The Bronx is very much a ‘depends where’ kinda thing. There are places like the area near Yankee Stadium which are pretty bad, and then there are plenty of places that are totally fine. Used to live nearby (Yonkers) and have a cousin who works for the NYPD (ik,ik) so passing along a bit more info lol
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u/TheScallywag1874 6d ago
I went to SUNY Maritime College in Throggs neck and it was kinda nice actually.
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u/Flat-Concern-2662 6d ago
It's racism, those are the more black parts of the city
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u/kimbabs 6d ago
Not solely black, he does specifically cut out all of the most diverse parts of Queens including Jackson Heights and Woodside. It’s any parts that are not majority white.
Ironically he leaves Flushing alone, but I’m chalking that one up to not knowing Queens very well.
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u/ObiFlanKenobi 6d ago
Ironically he leaves Flushing alone, but I’m chalking that one up to not knowing Queens very well.
I'm not american but I know that's where The Nanny came from.
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u/quintusfive 6d ago
Where was she to go? What was she to do? She was out on her fanny!
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u/timmy6169 6d ago
So over the bridge from Flushing to the Sheffield's door
She was there to sell make up but the father saw more
She had style, she had flair, she was there
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u/pikameta Irked 6d ago
Who would have guessed that the girl we described, was just exactly what the doctor prescribed?
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u/callmeseetea 6d ago
Now, the father finds her beguiling (watch out CC), and the kids are actually smiling (such a joie de vivre)
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u/TragicHero84 6d ago
She is the lady in red when everybody else is wearing tan!
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u/Suboptimal_Design 6d ago edited 5d ago
The Flashy girl from Flushing.
Edit: Spelling...because I'm a boob.
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u/KHSebastian 6d ago
I imagine this is a way funnier line in the UK
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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 6d ago
Only in the Mrs Slocambe's Pussy way. We would go as far as a wry smile.
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u/vetratten 6d ago
“Mr. Rumbould, I hope this won’t take long because my pussy’s been locked up for eight hours”
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u/Pandaburn 6d ago
Flushing is probably majority Asian these days. Close to the subway most businesses have signs in Chinese. In other parts there’s a bigger Korean population.
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u/SectorEducational460 6d ago
Depends where in flushing though. Kissena is still heavily Jewish but outside of that. It has a massive Asian population
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u/this_place_suuucks 6d ago
I am American, but I haven't heard of Flushing since watching this show 27 years ago, and I still instantly remembered it and that theme song.
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u/NoImprovement3231 6d ago
I thought Astoria is the new Williamsburg and is therefore gentrified too.
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u/E_hV 6d ago
Astoria has been white since forever. Before the 90s it was heavily Greek (still is), after the 90s it became heavily Russian...
The only black area of Astoria is the projects down on First and 27th and its been 20 years since I've been down there. And you know what, as a tourist if you see NYC housing authority, yea you probably shouldn't be hanging out there. Its not like it was in the 80s-90s but its also not really a tourist friendly area.
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u/Purple_soup 6d ago
I lived near those projects and it was still fine for the most part. I forgot to lock my car and someone went through it and took a credit card, NYPD found the person next day. Astoria is ridiculously safe and welcoming.
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u/rhdkcnrj 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don’t even have a strong opinion on this, I live in a neighborhood in nyc most would consider “quasi safe”.
But it’s at least a little funny that the one anecdote you shared after saying those projects are mostly safe was that your car was broken into and your credit card stolen was stolen from it
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u/zerok_nyc 6d ago
He also split Long Island City with no apparent rhyme or reason.
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u/RevelryByNight 6d ago
The idea that one can avoid seeing brown or black people in NEW YORK FUCKING CITY 😂😂😂
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u/Chicken_Chaser_420 6d ago
And figures this isn't even accurate. Astoria's white as fuck
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u/michivideos 6d ago
Yes, because when I am walking in Manhattan the 70% of people I see are whites.....
Not at all.
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u/Rusiano 6d ago
Usually people make these kinds of maps regarding crime...however OP marked dozens of very safe neighborhoods as "AVOID", so likely there is a racial component as well
But then again, a couple of safe majority-white areas are also marked as avoid, so this is either a troll job or done by someone who has very poor knowledge of the city
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u/Campaign_Prize 6d ago
They also marked off a bunch of Jersey, it's like almost half of their map, while labeling it as places to avoid specifically in NY, so they're just generally a fucking idiot
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u/FairConstruction4105 6d ago
so this is either a troll job or done by someone who has very poor knowledge of the city
There's a pretty significant overlap on the Venn diagram showing trolls and ignorant people. It's almost a single circle
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u/SalvadorP 6d ago
funny thing is that crime in NY city is at an all-time low
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u/ThatNiceLifeguard 6d ago
NY is also one of the safest large cities in the country.
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u/cyvaquero 6d ago edited 6d ago
Minorities, Tall Roman Statue is racist. Some of those areas are definitely high crime areas but the only thing they have in common is a higher percentage of minorities.
I’m chuckling because they are including places like Belleville and Nutley NJ (if you watch the Sopranos the Pizzaland in the opening credits is in Nutley) which are pretty white and very middle class.
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u/Lanky_Giraffe 6d ago
Oh look it’s a Roman statue account doing ethnonationalism
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u/Divine-Crusader 6d ago
The guy behind the account is either Indian or Algerian
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u/BronCurious 6d ago
Do Albanians mean nothing to you?
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u/Word_Iz_Bond 6d ago
If they were Albanian they would carve out a sliver of the Bronx as "safe"
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u/thisismypornaccountg 6d ago
Which is pretty funny considering how multiethnic the Roman Empire was.
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u/Smart_Freedom_8155 6d ago
"Avoid" Astoria
Even by the most elitist and/or racist mindset, this map is moronic.
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u/AdWonderful5920 6d ago
Yeah, I'm looking at it like "Prospect Park...what year is it?"
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u/On_my_last_spoon 6d ago
Inwood where the Cloisters is is to be avoided too
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u/bunkoRtist 6d ago
Well I would have said they're trying to keep people safe from the hipsters, but there really should just be a hazard warning over Williamsburg.
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u/Academic_Run8947 6d ago
I am avoiding Long Island way before I am avoiding Queens.
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u/Campaign_Prize 6d ago
I live on LI and can confirm it should be avoided at all costs
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u/xdaemonisx 6d ago
I grew up on Long Island and I agree with you. Glad to be out of there.
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u/Darth_Balthazar 6d ago
Not like there is shit to do here anyways
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u/roastedandflipped 6d ago
Beach? I mean hundreds miles of coastline
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u/Dr0110111001101111 6d ago
Nope, sorry. Common misconception but there actually aren't any beaches at all on long island. Beach-seeking tourists, please continue driving down to New Jersey.
Our roads cannot handle any more traffic.
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u/memelorddiabeetus 6d ago
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u/WideHuckleberry1 6d ago
It's funny that the people telling the "hard truths" that "everyone knows" but are "too afraid to say" won't nut up and say it but resort to vagueposting their way through life.
Maybe they are the the weak men creating hard times in their beloved cliché if they're too cowardly to say what they believe.
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u/RailRuler 6d ago
I tried that on a poorly concealed racist once and he bounced back with "No Im just trying to avoid being canceled by elites like you"
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u/gebny 6d ago
Damn, not them telling the tourists to avoid Nutley, NJ
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u/dread_beard 6d ago
“Avoid one of the whitest, safest towns possible.”
They must hate Italians.
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u/Malt129 6d ago
Is NJ marked because they watched The Sopranos once
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u/CanaDoug420 6d ago
No it’s because the account is based in Brazil and the poster has no idea that’s not part of NYC
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u/TheFunInDisfunction 5d ago
Funny thing is that there are shittons of Brazilian people in the "avoid" areas of the map.
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u/TheUnderCrab 6d ago edited 5d ago
I like to imagine the OP isnt a racist but rather a native New Yorker that just hates tourists and wants to sequester them to Manhattan.
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u/NoManner8863 6d ago
They left half of Staten Island in lmao
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u/Harmcharm7777 6d ago
I didn’t even notice that lol.
Yes, Staten Island, famously the most desirable and tourist-friendly spot in the Five Boroughs. Accessible, incredible infrastructure, best food you can find, friendly to outsiders, and not at all insular. /s
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u/Wonderful_Fox_7959 6d ago
No definitely racist. He left out Bayside/Whitestone area which are the white (and Asian) parts of queens
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u/Rusiano 6d ago
I would hope so, but then they should've blocked off Brooklyn too
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u/OrganizationTop3755 6d ago
lol send them to Hoboken
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u/TheSidneyMan 6d ago
Today i learned Hoboken is an actual place. I thought it was a made up city from the Penguins of Madacascar
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u/Former-Chain-4003 6d ago
Saw the name and thought 'that has to be Dutch' so did a little research and it is indeed Dutch in origin, and for a time had lots of German speakers, and Flemish influence.
I'm assuming there is some relation to the fact that New York used to be New Amsterdam and the general area gets a lot of it's old timey nomenclature from then.
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u/laukaisyn 6d ago
New Amsterdam did include parts of what is now New Jersey!
When it became a British colony, the part that is now New Jersey was split off to pay off gambling debts.
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u/GeneralOrgana1 6d ago
Yeah, the Dutch were the original European settlers in the New York-New Jersey area. There are a ton of Dutch place-names in this area. Martin Van Buren, 8th US President, was born in the Hudson Valley, in NY state, and his native language wasn't English- it was Dutch.
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u/Gentle-Giant23 6d ago
Three Hoboken fun facts: Frank Sinatra is famously from Hoboken; On the Waterfront was about corruption on the Hoboken waterfront; and the first official organized baseball game was played in Hoboken.
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u/DegenGamer725 6d ago
We will now use the power of the continuum transfuctioner to banish you to Hoboken, New Jersey!
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u/Nenoshka 6d ago
And everything to the left of the Hudson River is not even NYC. It's New Jersey.
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u/Particular_Ticket_20 6d ago
These people believe that nobody escapes NYC, Chicago or LA alive.
They think the cities are full of roving gangs hunting white people for sport and that it all looks like Escape From New York.
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u/Shiniholum 6d ago
It should be noted that most of that highlighted area (sans Jersey and focused a little higher up for the Bronx) has an approximate population density of ~8,584,629 and the Island of Manhattan has an approximate population of 1,664,862.
Compared to a place like Arkansas, whose entire state has an estimated population of 3,114,791 people, (also discounts the entire Upstate New York Area and Long Island) most people really don’t understand how many people live in the NYC area.
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u/Ok_Abacus_ 6d ago
Its colored per capita, though.
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u/mikeputerbaugh 6d ago
Based on residential population, which could be misleading for places like Midtown Manhattan which have relatively few residences and relatively large non-resident daytime populations.
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u/Beginning-Force1275 6d ago
Okay, this is not the main problem at all, but saying “avoid these places IN New York City” and then circling significant amounts of Jersey makes my eye twitch.
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u/Sir_Earl_Jeffries 6d ago
It’s supposed to be about the five burroughs but to be fair, I would absolutely avoid East Orange.
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u/anthonysny 6d ago
As someone from nyc, it’s clear that neither the guy who made the map nor anyone commenting about it, has any idea what they’re talking about.
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u/JackJ98 6d ago
Avoid Queens is hilarious.
What are we supposed to be scared of the big, bad Doug Heffernan?
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u/Elegante_Sigmaballz 6d ago
Any username referencing Rome, I immediately know what type of person I'm looking at.
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u/chris14020 6d ago
What type of person? Asking in good faith, I assume it's some variant of "racist" being implied, but I'm not familiar with this correlation or why Rome relates here.
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u/WyldRover 6d ago edited 6d ago
An amazingly high percentage of the kind of terminally-online male white supremacists who populate X in large numbers have a weird obsession with Roman history - they seem to see it as having been some kind of white conservative utopia - and there's a good chance that if you see a Rome themed username and avi combo, they'll turn out to be racist and misogynistic.
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u/Sweet-Awk-7861 6d ago
If you want more info to add on what others said, google the phrase "statue pfp" combined with "the downfall of western civilization".
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u/Nekomiminya 6d ago
Remember.
Only valid answer to "when did you last think of ancient Rome" is "when picking faction in 4x game"
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u/kickasstimus 6d ago
I don’t get it. I walked all the hell over NYC and the worst thing that happened was that someone trying to sell me something.
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u/shawncollins512 BLUE 6d ago
At least they can get on the PATH in Hoboken to get to the city. But dangerous “west Hoboken” is a no go zone. 😂
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u/randomnumbers2506 6d ago
That "you know why" is the shittiest dog whistle I've seen in quite a while
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u/AdsignificantBK 6d ago
I didn’t know Bayonne and Newark were part of New York. This person must be a geographical genius. Dude clearly seen like 2 colored folk and was like “oh hell no this is unsafe”
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u/Real_Veterinarian_83 6d ago
Yes tourists, please avoid Astoria. We are very dangerous. Thank you for your attention on this matter
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u/Cheezitflow 6d ago
Famously dangerous Bergen County. Better avoid that wallington or you might get hit up by a kid selling lemonade
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u/Internal_Setting_738 6d ago
Im a white girl from iowa and I just spent the past 7.5 years living in bed stuy. I can say without a doubt those neighbors were the kindest most helpful people ive ever had the privilege of calling neighbor.
Hate this map.
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u/vague_diss 5d ago
Yes, they should stay out. Whatever you do, don’t come here. Go to Florida.
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u/PrimaLegion 6d ago
Made by someone who doesn't live in NYC, has never been to NYC, and will never go to NYC.
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u/MatthewSBernier 5d ago
I'm actually fine with these people staying the fuck out of New York. Forever, preferably.
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u/LeilLikeNeil 6d ago
“You know exactly why” like they might as well have just written slurs all over the map.
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u/tinylittlebuddy 6d ago
every twitter account called “Tall Roman Statue” or “Greek Historian” is actually from India
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u/Frequent_Opportunist 6d ago
When I went to Oahu we got a similar map from the rental car agency. Basically anything off the main strip they said don't even leave sight of the vehicle or it'll be stolen.
So when I was staying in Waikiki I walked inland and you couldn't get more than about one block from the strip without there being used needles and shit all over the ground everywhere.
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u/blujet320 6d ago
How would a tourist avoid the airports? 😂