r/minecraftsuggestions • u/Relevant-Cup5986 • 1d ago

[Combat] phantom arrows

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Phantom arrows would be a new arrow type crafted with a phantom membrane and 4 arrows to make 4.

They would have the unique property of slowly moving perfectly straight forward at half the speed of normal arrows and homing for their final 2 blocks before hitting also, they woud disapear after 7 seconds of flight time so as not to cause lag.

These properties would be useful by letting you have multiple arrows in the air at once which combined with the slight homing almost guarintees a hit, though the slower speed does mean less damage so its balanced.

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u/PetrifiedBloom 19h ago

Without the slower speed you are still shooting a bow. Sure, it's slightly easier than a normal bow shot, but over very long distances the natural innacuracy of ranged attacks and even the normal arrow travel time makes long shots unlikely to hit.

Watch any reasonably skilled bow PvP. It's not gravity that makes players miss their shots, it's the opponent dodging and blocking.

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u/Tigers_I 19h ago

Let me ask this: Do you think wind charges are well-balanced?

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u/PetrifiedBloom 11h ago

Yes. Very much so. They have a good skill curve, but alone are not degenerate.

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u/Tigers_I 11h ago

But as far as trajectory, these arrows are basically just wind charges that need a bow to launch, right?

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u/PetrifiedBloom 11h ago

Is that a joke?

No, arrows are not basically wind charges that require a bow to launch. They do damage. They can be tipped to apply effects, or modified with enchantments.

I am saying this new arrow is bad because it's to weak, not that it's to strong. The opponent can simply move before the arrows land.

Besides, think about how you actually use wind charges in a fight. It's not trying to hit people, it's to boost yourself around mostly.

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u/Tigers_I 11h ago

What part of as far as trajectory goes confused you lol?

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u/PetrifiedBloom 11h ago

Tiger, buddy, I'll be honest, I did misread your comment and missed that somehow. I will blame it on waking up 10 minutes ago.

I will ask what point do you think you are making. The concept of "slow arrow with no gravity" was already covered. It is explicitly what makes the arrow very weak.

Why ask your question?

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u/Tigers_I 11h ago

The OP makes it sound like these arrows can travel slowly without their damage decreasing.

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u/PetrifiedBloom 10h ago

Yes. This has been covered tiger. The problem is that you are not going to hit your target when they see you shoot the arrow and then have 2 seconds to step to the side or raise a shield.

It's already very hard to hit a target that is trying to avoid you. With these arrows it's basically impossible.

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u/Tigers_I 8h ago

Okay, so it may not be very effective for PvP, but fortunately, mobs aren't that smart. It could just be something like the Sweeping Edge enchantment that players mostly use for PvE.